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Old 06-29-2018, 10:50 PM   #21701 (permalink)
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Mostly true. Anyone who served in the military is a ****ed up human being. Many people join without knowing what they're getting into when they sign up.

I love me a ton of war films but I can't think of one that isn't propaganda.
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Old 06-29-2018, 10:59 PM   #21702 (permalink)
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I thought The Patriot was pretty fair and non-sensationalist.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:11 PM   #21703 (permalink)
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I thought The Patriot was pretty fair and non-sensationalist.
Can't forget Battleship Potemkin.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:15 PM   #21704 (permalink)
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The Deer Hunter.
Apocalypse Now.
The Boys in Company C.
Johnny Got His Gun.
Coming Home.
Black Hawk Down.
Platoon.
Grave of the Fireflies.
Paths of Glory.
Das Boot.
Casualties of War.
Friendly Fire.
Hamburger Hill.

Again, not cool to broad brush.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:21 PM   #21705 (permalink)
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The Deer Hunter.
Apocalypse Now.
The Boys in Company C.
Johnny Got His Gun.
Coming Home.
Black Hawk Down.
Platoon.
Grave of the Fireflies.
Paths of Glory.
Das Boot.
Casualties of War.
Friendly Fire.
Hamburger Hill.

Again, not cool to broad brush.
It's not cool to strawman, either. Propaganda is not synonymous with bad art. ****, some of the best art is propaganda because it has ridiculous government funding behind it.
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Holy ****, Blackhawk Down? Really? That's one of the worst. You might as well add We Were Soldiers to the list.
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Holy ****, Blackhawk Down? Really? That's one of the worst. You might as well add We Were Soldiers to the list.
You just wish that you were as cool as Chula was when he watched it.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:33 PM   #21708 (permalink)
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And don't most American war movies get backed by the Pentagon so the movie makers can get their expertise and equipment without having to actually buy their own military, of course so long as the military gets to have input on the script?
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Holy ****, Blackhawk Down? Really? That's one of the worst. You might as well add We Were Soldiers to the list.
A document of one of the most disastrous US military operations in modern history where the US got their asses absolutely kicked and were made to look like inept fools the entire time? Ya, military propaganda for sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle...litary_fallout

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And don't most American war movies get backed by the Pentagon so the movie makers can get their expertise and equipment without having to actually buy their own military, of course so long as the military gets to have input on the script?
If you think that any of the movies I listed were approved and financed by the US military you are hopeless. All of these movies demonized war and the military, and made joining and fighting in a war look like absolute hell. Not exactly a recruitment tool for our armed services.

Ever seen Coming Home or Friendly Fire? The pentagon was pissing hollow point bullets when those two got so many critical accolades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Fire_(1979_film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_Home_(1978_film)
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The ones that I've seen on the list demonize war by way of sympathizing the war criminals aka troops. Boom, propaganda. Pun intended.
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