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Old 11-16-2017, 12:22 PM   #20501 (permalink)
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Might actually be both my fav horror and sci-fi movie. And Jesus Christ everyone talks about the Xenomorph, but how ****ing cool, nightmarish, and ****ing real does the facehugger look? Doesn't even look like a horror movie monster, and it isn't even something that goes RARGH DIE!!! The scene in the medbay when this hate**** lifeform is just lying on the peacefully unconscious dude's face without moving is like a dark mirror version of Star Trek and it's amazing. I'm glad HR Giger never did any more horror movie designs (that I know of) or else it might have become old hat rather than being the greatest anomaly in horror monster design.
The face hugger is a great design. I watched Alien at way too young an age (8-9 years. Very permissive parents.), and that creepy little bastard had quite an effect on my young mind. It seemed so otherworldly, so fascinating, scary and lifelike. I think the way it doesn't just lob your head off, but insead sends you into a peaceful coma while pretty much impregnating you... it's all very Freudian and ****ed up. The grown aliens are more like aggressive tigers or something. Scary - but the facehugger has more dimensions to it.

And yeah, I agree that it's probably for the best that it didn't become all trendy to have H.R. Giger monster designs - even though one has to imagine he must have turned down a request or two.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:29 PM   #20502 (permalink)
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I think the way it doesn't just lob your head off, but instead sends you into a peaceful coma while pretty much impregnating you... it's all very Freudian and ****ed up. The grown aliens are more like aggressive tigers or something.
Yeah, but that scene when *spoiler* the black guy whose name I can't remember dies and then the alien kills the woman with its tail by presumably going up through her torso was so much a rape scene. Even that part where Ripley is going down the corridor with the woman screaming over the intercom for way too ****ing long to not make you feel uncomfortable was def supposed to feel like a rape scene. So physical violation was very much a theme of that movie even beyond just the facehugger.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Yeah, but that scene when *spoiler* the black guy whose name I can't remember dies and then the alien kills the woman with its tail by presumably going up through her torso was so much a rape scene. Even that part where Ripley is going down the corridor with the woman screaming over the intercom for way too ****ing long to not make you feel uncomfortable was def supposed to feel like a rape scene. So physical violation was very much a theme of that movie even beyond just the facehugger.
That's a good observation. I agree that the movie points in a certain direction in more than one way. It's very sexual, in a way. Just like most of H.R. Giger's artwork is. And who hasn't realized what the under side of the face hugger looks like at this point?
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That's a good observation. I agree that the movie points in a certain direction in more than one way. It's very sexual, in a way. Just like most of H.R. Giger's artwork is. And who hasn't realized what the under side of the face hugger looks like at this point?
Lulz yeah. The xenomorph was far too sadistic in a way that isn't just mindlessly murderous for it to not be seen as a sexual sadist. The best ways to encourage a lifeform to do something from an evolutionary standpoint, whether it be eating, mating, or killing is to make it pleasurable, and that alien clearly derived pleasure from killing. Totally a sexual sadist.
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Yeah, but that scene when *spoiler* the black guy whose name I can't remember dies and then the alien kills the woman with its tail by presumably going up through her torso was so much a rape scene. Even that part where Ripley is going down the corridor with the woman screaming over the intercom for way too ****ing long to not make you feel uncomfortable was def supposed to feel like a rape scene. So physical violation was very much a theme of that movie even beyond just the facehugger.
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This says it all. Ridley was 100% going "there".

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TFW you're reminded of that movie The Ghost and the Darkness and want to watch a horror movie about actual wild animals (lions in the case of that movie) that is legit and not stupid but that movie wasn't that good from what you remember anyway but it was at least based on real events and had Michael Douglas and Val Kilmer and wasn't a CGI ****fest so good enough I guess?

Also tfw you see the tagline for the movie, "Prey for the hunters". God damn it. It can't be THAT bad, right?
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can't say i've ever had those very particular feelings
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can't say i've ever had those very particular feelings
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After the long wait, finally seen the Miike adaptation of the BoTI manga, met every expectation I had and then some

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I watched The Green Mile.

Probably in my top ten films. Really enjoyed it.
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