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Old 02-23-2017, 02:06 PM   #18841 (permalink)
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Are you just now realizing those?
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The heptapods never gave her that power. She always had it, they just helped her understand it better.
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:15 PM   #18842 (permalink)
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The heptapods never gave her that power. She always had it, they just helped her understand it better.
The daughter/Ian thing was obvious during the first viewing. When I first saw the movie I thought that Shang was repeating her words to him (well, he was). I didn't fully realize that he was actually implanting them for the first time.

Frowny, not so sure about that.
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:15 PM   #18843 (permalink)
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All she needed was to believe in herself.
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:19 PM   #18844 (permalink)
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Frowny, not so sure about that.
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She has the visions of her daughter and such at the beginning of the movie before she comes in contact with the aliens, but doesn't quite seem to understand them.
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:23 PM   #18845 (permalink)
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She has the visions of her daughter and such at the beginning of the movie before she comes in contact with the aliens, but doesn't quite seem to understand them.
But the thing is they allowed her to go both backwards and forwards. It's not coincidence that she named her daughter HANNAH. A palindrome.
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Thank you for reiterating my original point lol. She was going forwards in the beginning and they made it seem like flashbacks.
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Thank you for reiterating my original point lol.
Huh? You moving the goalposts?
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:28 PM   #18848 (permalink)
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I don't think it makes sense to make the distinction. The paradox of the call with the Chinese dude makes it clear that whatever rules this "ability" operate by are beyond human understanding (or just handwaving). Besides, they're not visions. She's existing in all points in time in which she ever lived simultaneously.
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:32 PM   #18849 (permalink)
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Chalk it up to poor phrasing on my part re: visions.

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That she had the ability from the beginning and that they allowed her to utilize it. We're saying the same thing, trust me on this if you can't see it.


Watch it again, maybe it'll become clear to you.
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No. I'm with The Bat on this one. A human couldn't have that ability. They imparted it on her once she became so intimate with them.

"Now that's a proper introduction".

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