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Old 12-15-2016, 04:00 AM   #18261 (permalink)
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Okay, so the aliens came to that specific time just to give Louise the language so that they can further communicate with them in the future when they actually need our assistance. I got that part. Are they relying on the human race to have advanced technology by then to actually assist them? Why did they pick this specific point in time when they only need us 3000 years from now? What was so significant about this period in time?

I understand why her husband was mad at her. If you already know that you are going to have a daughter and she's just going to die then why bother? I guess she just wants to live in the moment and experience the joys of parenting blah blah blah. I would be pissed at her too if I knew that she knew she was bringing a life in this world that would be taken out early just to cause more pain. It would have made sense if the daughter was special in some sort of way that ended up advancing technology.

I also don't think just by us knowing the language we automatically unlock the human conscious and other humans are able to see their past/future selves in their own timeline. The only reason it happened for Louise was because of the last time she went into the ship. It is kind of strange that she was having visions before they did what they did with her.
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Because the universe, time, history etc - everything is predetermined. There is no free will. There is no, one might argue, consciousness either, since no choices are being made and everybody is just a puppet in a show that's been written long ago.. or somewhere in the future.. well, it's irrelevant when. That's the big question for me: did she really make that choice ? Was it hers to make ?
I think the knowledge of the language alone made the change, though I'd say this visit to the ship accelerated this process and Louise understood what is going on instantly, when to others it probably would take years of exposure to the language for change to appear.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:33 AM   #18262 (permalink)
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Because the universe, time, history etc - everything is predetermined. There is no free will. There is no, one might argue, consciousness either, since no choices are being made and everybody is just a puppet in a show that's been written long ago.. or somewhere in the future.. well, it's irrelevant when. That's the big question for me: did she really make that choice ? Was it hers to make ?
I think the knowledge of the language alone made the change, though I'd say this visit to the ship accelerated this process and Louise understood what is going on instantly, when to others it probably would take years of exposure to the language for change to appear.
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I would have liked to see her try to buck the system and go against the pre-written future that she has seen. It would have been interesting to see her distance herself from what was supposed to be her future husband in someway. I know it isn't in her character to do it but I would have loved to see her kill him just to make a stand! Declare that we have free will and not everything is pre-written to go against that notion.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:48 AM   #18263 (permalink)
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I would have liked to see her try to buck the system and go against the pre-written future that she has seen. It would have been interesting to see her distance herself from what was supposed to be her future husband in someway. I know it isn't in her character to do it but I would have loved to see her kill him just to make a stand! Declare that we have free will and not everything is pre-written to go against that notion.
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Ha, I'd like to see that too. This theory about everything being predetermined is my own, I doubt that's what the author wanted to say, but I too missed an attempt to break this cycle. Maybe they decided against that because it would make the movie a lot more confusing, maybe they didn't even consider it. The way I see it though, this predeterminism is the only real way for the plot to work.
Anyway, the movie might be slightly overhyped but it's the first one in a long time that made me ask questions afterwards, and that's something I really value
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I would have liked to see her try to buck the system and go against the pre-written future that she has seen. It would have been interesting to see her distance herself from what was supposed to be her future husband in someway. I know it isn't in her character to do it but I would have loved to see her kill him just to make a stand! Declare that we have free will and not everything is pre-written to go against that notion.
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I think that would have been cheesy as ****. And it really wouldn't have made any sense. It's not like she just KNEW that she was going to become a mother. She already was a mother. She had merged completely with all of her past and future selves, experiencing their lives just as much as she was experiencing her own.

I imagine choosing not to have her child would have felt like murdering a person who she knew as intimately as her future self did, and also would have robbed, not just her, but her husband and daughter of the experiences and feelings they all shared together.
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Three Days to Kill. Not great by any stretch but a fun way to blow 100 minutes. Costner is aging well and still able to pull off the action scenes. And considering it's a flick about people killing each other at every turn, some pretty funny and touching stuff goes down. Oh, and.....

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Speaking of hot chicks in movies, I've always thought Amy Adams was absolutely adorable, but after seeing Arrival she is now the most adorable milf ever. She's not the kind of unattainable hotness like Scarlet Johansson, where you'd be too overwhelmed by her being a goddess to treat her like a person and it would be some kind of toxic, destructive relationship that would end with you in the gutter, a bottle your only friend.

No, Amy Adams has a down-to-earth beauty, and would be supportive yet independent and your relationship would be built on mutual respect and affection and you'd grow old and die within a week of each other cause neither of you can live without the other.

Not that I've thought that much about this or anything...

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Anyway, the movie might be slightly overhyped but it's the first one in a long time that made me ask questions afterwards, and that's something I really value
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I imagine choosing not to have her child would have felt like murdering a person who she knew as intimately as her future self did, and also would have robbed, not just her, but her husband and daughter of the experiences and feelings they all shared together.
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That's exactly what I wanted to happen. Rob the experiences from her husband and daughter. Her husband that didn't exist yet and the child that didn't exist only she knew of those experiences and would still know of those experiences even if she did kill him. She would still have memories of a life that didn't end up happening just to exert control over her life and it's destiny.


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Three Days to Kill. Not great by any stretch but a fun way to blow 100 minutes. Costner is aging well and still able to pull off the action scenes. And considering it's a flick about people killing each other at every turn, some pretty funny and touching stuff goes down. Oh, and.....
I loved that movie even though it reminded me a little bit of The Next Three Days. Only in title though since the plots of both movies are completely different.
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A down-to-earth beauty, and would be supportive yet independent and your relationship would be built on mutual respect and affection and you'd grow old and die within a week of each other cause neither of you can live without the other.
You just described me and Linda.

Amy in "The Fighter" is your dream girl.

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You just described me and Linda.

Amy in "The Fighter" is your dream girl.
That movie was awesome but if being you is what I have to look forward to...

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Probably already been brought up here, but "HUSH" on Netflix.

Take Misery, Green Room, Wait Until Dark, and Halloween. Put them in a blender and have the results exceed all expectations and you'll get this flick.

You don't need CGI, jump scares, excessive gore, or ridiculous premises to create absolute suspense/horror/terror. This flick proves it.

Note: About 90% of the movie happens at night with lots of darkness so don't watch it unless you are in a dark room.

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Hot damn I loved this movie. What a cool premise. Having those scenes where the movie echoes her deafness completely work and adds to the suspense. Same goes for her inner voice and how she can envision potential endings.


5 stars all the way baby!
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