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Old 02-21-2015, 09:24 PM   #14971 (permalink)
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I've only seen it once and was left with a big WTF at the end. Technically speaking it's breathtaking, but the base story is just daft.

In that era a character as vile and threatening as Daniel would have been shot in the back of the head outside of a saloon long before he rose to glory. Dudes as bat-**** crazy as that just didn't survive back then.
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I think you need to watch it again.

EDIT: just read your post a little more closely. I don't recall him doing anything bad besides being a little seedy before he started rising to success.
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Old 02-21-2015, 09:28 PM   #14972 (permalink)
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Good point. I've planned on giving it another go for a while. This debate has moved it up in the queue.

EDIT: There's the scene in a restaurant with his son early on where he threatens to gut a dude and his family in front of a bunch of patrons.
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Old 02-22-2015, 03:55 AM   #14973 (permalink)
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Y'all forced my hand, watch this ****.

Edit: Probably should say this is pretty NSFW.
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Old 02-22-2015, 04:36 AM   #14974 (permalink)
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What in the world? It is pretty critically acclaimed but not canonised enough to win that label.
I think it's kind of overrated too. It's beautifully shot, has an interesting premise, has some great acting in it and has a terrific score, but somehow it doesn't add up to much for me. I think the same is true of The Master as well.
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Old 02-22-2015, 05:06 AM   #14975 (permalink)
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Y'all forced my hand, watch this ****.

Edit: Probably should say this is pretty NSFW.
To me, that looks incredibly juvenile .. Just drugs, and random acts of sex and violence with no substance behind it to really make any of it matter.

I'm probably getting old.
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Old 02-22-2015, 01:55 PM   #14976 (permalink)
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To me, that looks incredibly juvenile .. Just drugs, and random acts of sex and violence with no substance behind it to really make any of it matter.

I'm probably getting old.
I'm pretty sure that's the point. It looks like exploitation for the sake of exploitation and the director doesn't care who knows it.
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Old 02-22-2015, 02:00 PM   #14977 (permalink)
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I've seen a fair share of violent exploitation flicks, so I'm not a stranger to it. I just generally consider it rather cheap entertainment.
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Old 02-22-2015, 02:04 PM   #14978 (permalink)
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I've seen a fair share of violent exploitation flicks, so I'm not a stranger to it. I just generally consider it rather cheap entertainment.
Who cares if the entertainment is cheap? So long as it's entertaining. If a five dollar crack whore gives you the best head of your life and no Herpes, then what's the problem?
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Old 02-22-2015, 11:23 PM   #14979 (permalink)
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Birdman. Called that win early.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:22 AM   #14980 (permalink)
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Who cares if the entertainment is cheap? So long as it's entertaining. If a five dollar crack whore gives you the best head of your life and no Herpes, then what's the problem?
There are so many problems with that it's not even funny.
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