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Old 02-10-2014, 09:20 PM   #13831 (permalink)
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^I haven't seen that since the theater but I remember really liking it. It's one of those movies I still find myself thinking about quite a bit.
Yeah, it was really intriguing, well done but still pulsing with ideas and ingenuity. It's actually by the same guy who did I'm Not There, which I always heard about as an interesting piece of cinema. Todd Hayne's actually sounds like a great filmmaker, innovative with skills as well, and he does a ton of movies about music, which is pretty much as good as it gets (not totally really). Also, I found out its narrative is very much based around Citizen Kane, which I think is fitting considering the parallels of revolution and indulgence.

Btw you might be one of only like 10000 people who actually saw it in theatres, and I bet that was fun, so go you Jans.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:36 PM   #13832 (permalink)
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Th latest movie i saw was the Lone Survivor. It was good but very graphic, definitely only needed to see it once. But it was a good movie nonetheless and would recommend it to anybody debating over what movie to see
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:38 PM   #13833 (permalink)
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Oooo I also seen The Wolf On Wall St too, which was great if you like money, sex and drugs. It was kind of like the corporate version of Scarface. So if you are into that kind of stuff it is a must see!
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:42 PM   #13834 (permalink)
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Yeah, it was really intriguing, well done but still pulsing with ideas and ingenuity. It's actually by the same guy who did I'm Not There, which I always heard about as an interesting piece of cinema. Todd Hayne's actually sounds like a great filmmaker, innovative with skills as well, and he does a ton of movies about music, which is pretty much as good as it gets (not totally really). Also, I found out its narrative is very much based around Citizen Kane, which I think is fitting considering the parallels of revolution and indulgence.

Btw you might be one of only like 10000 people who actually saw it in theatres, and I bet that was fun, so go you Jans.
I didn't realize it had that small of a release! I remember I saw it as part of a double feature with another movie about an artist and his dysfunctional relationship with another a guy: Love is the Devil, the Francis Bacon biopic. That movie was also pretty good, though not as good as Velvet Goldmine.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:14 AM   #13835 (permalink)
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Well I'm not sure how small it was exactly, (I know I didn't really hear about it), it's just that nobody went to see it, because they're dumb. I was reading that it had a 9 mil budget and only made 1 mil back. It may have had a smaller release, he wasn't as big a name back then (he's not quite that big now), but I read that he gave Julianne Moore one of her first starring roles which is rad cuz she's rad.

Also that's a sick ass double feature. No one does double features around here, no one goes to see David Bowie metamovies, no one does anything but wait for death. :/ But I just read about that artist, after first supposing "wow I didn't know the philosopher dude was a gay artist dude" like a dummy. he looks pretty cool, what was the movie like?
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:21 PM   #13836 (permalink)
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great freakin movie because its gritty and the acting is great. i'm never a fan of shaky cam but this one was ok because it made me think of cops the tv show
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:16 PM   #13837 (permalink)
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RoboCop

It was a piece of garbage and anybody involved in making it should be ashamed. It's not that I just didn't like it. It was so poorly constructed, acted, edited, and written that it seemed like the entire production team made this on the weekends when they were occupied with something else. The fact that they put this remake in the hands of a first time screenwriter shows how much effort they were willing to put into this. José Padilha is a director I admire. His Elite Squad films and documentary Bus 174 are fantastic gritty stories that up the realism and don't hold anything back. I feel bad for the man who came to Hollywood hoping to hit a mainstream audience and he's going to look like a fool now because of inept studio interference getting in the way of his creativity. What a waste of talent. Shame on those studios. This is why I give José Padilha a pass on this one. He should keep making excellent Brazilian films where he has complete control. There are going to be a lot of people who will seek out his films. He doesn't need Hollywood bull****.

That being said, the movie was atrocious. I don't even know where to start. I guess the first order of business is the one thing we knew would hold the film back, the PG-13 rating. I know that direct adaptions are kinda lame. The original "RoboCop" was violent as hell and why the story was still a basic Frankenstein re-imagining, it was fun as hell. This remake wasn't fun. This remake wasn't even a little bit fun. I didn't laugh. I didn't think any of the effects were cool. I didn't find a single thing enjoyable except for the wonderful Gary Oldman who tried his best to make anything in this film work. I think that may be a biased statement, but he didn't do anything wrong with this role. Another slight positive was just the notion that it's nice to see Michael Keatons face on the big screen again. He wasn't very impressive but it was still great to see. The rest of the cast were horrid. Abbie Cornish shouldn't act. Her attempts at being an anxiety filled house wife were laughable. Joel Kinnaman should stick to television. He just doesn't have the face, voice, or presence to command a film. He's a supporting actor at best. It was nice seeing Michael K. Williams in a role that isn't Omar from "The Wire" but the lines his character was given were so corny that it was like a ten year old in the back room of a studio came up with them while playing cops and robbers with his imaginary friend Steve. The whole cast besides Oldman failed on a major level.

I couldn't stand the writing. They spent almost two thirds of the film setting up the development of RoboCop only to realize that they haven't developed any conflict yet and just shoved a villain in at the last second. Again, it is a remake so I'm not spoiling anything but if you've never seen the original film you would be very confused as to why Michael Keaton all of a sudden became a villain. It was that sudden. The film also revealed all these different plot twists with corrupt cops and completely forgot about closing that part of the story. A major character is revealed to be an ******* and then the scene ends and we hear nothing of it, or see that character again for the entire rest of the film. You could land a space shuttle through these holes. It was laughable.

Oh, I nearly forgot about Samuel L. Jackson. His character was one of the most annoying characters I've ever seen in a film. He acted like a segmented narrator throughout the film giving comments on what we just saw while doing so in a fashion that was abrasive and obnoxious. They also just HAD to throw in him saying "motherf*cker". They had to do it. It was entirely distracting and stupid.

The action was also just poorly done. There was no sense of danger or intensity. It was bland, quick cutting PG-13 video game slop. I actually almost fell asleep during the big set piece at the end. That's how boring it was.

Don't waste you time seeing this film. It's a mistake that should never have happened and was sabotaged from the beginning. If you want to see good work from José Padilha then check out his previous films. This is something he will be forgetting and I will be too.

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I was lied to then. They kept saying the fact that it was PG-13 wasn't a big deal because in todays day and age they can get away with more violence than they could in the past under a PG-13 rating. Which I agree with. Look at the last few Die Hards.
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I was lied to then. They kept saying the fact that it was PG-13 wasn't a big deal because in todays day and age they can get away with more violence than they could in the past under a PG-13 rating. Which I agree with. Look at the last few Die Hards.
But Robocop was downright brutal at times. They melted some dude. Melted! Even with today's rating system you couldn't actually melt someone.
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