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Old 04-24-2012, 11:52 AM   #11541 (permalink)
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In regards to question one... I never even really gave it a thought when watching the movie and just chalked it up a big global conspiracy with really nice benefits to entice silence among the workers. As to the human sacrifices, I think they just worked with what fit the bill as best they could. There was a line towards the end where The Director was explaining to Dana her role as "the virgin" and she just gives Sigourney Weaver a look of "you really think I'm a virgin?" and Sigourney Weaver responds with "we work with what we have.

As to the second question, there does seem to be a bit of a plothole there, perhaps it was cut from the movie to be added to the Director's Cut DVD when it comes out? Joss Whedon is a decent enough writer to avoid a pretty obvious plothole like that so I'm going to assume it's studio meddling.
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See, I feel like the idea of that big of a conspiracy going on for thousands of years with most people unaware of it really strains the limits of plausibility, even in such a far-from-realistic movie. I mean there was a brief shot of a failed sacrifice in Argentina at one point which looked like it involved the military fighting some massive, King Kong -esque monster. How could stuff like that be going on all the time without the general populace being aware?

On the subject of Joss Whedon's writing: the more I think about it, the more I realize that one of the things I didn't like about the movie was how the characters were written. Joss Whedon is usually great with characterization, but all the characters in the movie were so flat that it made me not as invested in the story as I would like to have been. I certainly didn't care about any of the kids in cabin, and didn't think I was supposed to. Steve Hadley was the only character with any depth so I kind of figured he'd play some key role (like maybe he was behind the sabotage) but then he was bumped off abruptly (which was hilarious though). In the end, I was left with two protagonists who I didn't care about squaring off against a completely undeveloped antagonist who was only introduced in the last ten minutes of the movie. Sure, it was fun to see Sigourney Weaver pop up unexpectedly, but I wish they had done more with her.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:55 AM   #11542 (permalink)
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Oh man, I'm so curious, but I don't dare clicking those spoiler buttons. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in the cinema myself, although I'm thinking maybe I should turn down my expectations a little.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:03 PM   #11543 (permalink)
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Oh man, I'm so curious, but I don't dare clicking those spoiler buttons. I'm really looking forward to seeing it in the cinema myself, although I'm thinking maybe I should turn down my expectations a little.
Don't click the spoilers.

Do dial down your expectations before watching the movie. It's a good movie, but definitely flawed. It's frustrating because with just a bit more tinkering it could have been amazing.

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Old 04-24-2012, 02:30 PM   #11544 (permalink)
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Don't click the spoilers.

Do dial down your expectations before watching the movie. It's a good movie, but definitely flawed. It's frustrating because with just a bit more tinkering it could have been amazing.

I have to admit the impression I have based on the very little that I know makes it seem like a sort of mix between Tucker & Dale vs. Evil, Cabin Fever and Saw. I'm not sure how promising that sounds, but the hype I've read in this thread has been considerable ..

It's true that horror isn't exactly brimming with top quality entertainment, even to a general fan of the genre, so just "good" horrors stand out from rest. The last horror movie to come out that really satisfied me, I think, was probably The Orphanage. And I was also quite happy with Drag Me to Hell even though it wasn't perfect. I should mention that when it comes to horror, a lot of the movies I watch these days are from previous decades.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:40 PM   #11545 (permalink)
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I have to admit the impression I have based on the very little that I know makes it seem like a sort of mix between Tucker & Dale vs. Evil, Cabin Fever and Saw. I'm not sure how promising that sounds, but the hype I've read in this thread has been considerable ..
I would say it's more like a cross between Evil Dead II and a well-known non-horror movie that I can't tell you the name of because it would probably reveal too much.

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It's true that horror isn't exactly brimming with top quality entertainment, even to a general fan of the genre, so just "good" horrors stand out from rest. The last horror movie to come out that really satisfied me, I think, was probably The Orphanage. And I was also quite happy with Drag Me to Hell even though it wasn't perfect. I should mention that when it comes to horror, a lot of the movies I watch these days are from previous decades.
I still need to see both of those movies.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:29 PM   #11546 (permalink)
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I think a problem with the horror genre may be that quality stories/projects like The Changeling (1980), Rosemary's Baby or The Shining are considered risky for the big companies who seem to just churn out follow-up films in franchises like Saw or Paranormal Activity and the like, basic popcorn cinema scare flicks. Independent film makers sometimes make horrors with a little more quality, but there's a lot of ****e coming from that direction too. Overall, I feel like horror movies really lack class these days. They're more likely to contain cheap scares or just be over the top like Human Centipede than actually be moving and engaging with characters you care about.

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I still need to see both of those movies.
Definitely worth checking out, I think.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:58 PM   #11547 (permalink)
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Horror is both the easiest and hardest thing to do. It's the easiest thing to do poorly and the hardest thing to do well. The problem with the scene is that we haven't had anything particularly original, or if something original does miraculously descend from on high to take us to the promise land, some Hollywood suit will clip its wings and present us with the same thing a billion times. We either get a quick cash-in on the original's success like with The Blair Witch Project and Paranormal Activity, or just the same movie every goddamn year for seven fucking years in a row. When they're not making making the same movie with increasingly bigger numbers on the end, you've got Michael Bay's guild of evil hiding behind the name Platinum Dune remaking 1970's or '80's horror franchises, or you have some other studio doing shot-for-shot remakes of foreign horror movies like The Ring or Quarantine. It really is an abysmal time to be a horror movie fan.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:07 PM   #11548 (permalink)
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I just watched the Descendants last night. Pretty good movie. Even though George Clooney's acting is something like "George Clooney is a psychic military guy", "George Clooney is a guy who fires people", or "George Clooney is Batman", I still like that guy's movies. There were some pretty powerful moments in the movie.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:12 PM   #11549 (permalink)
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I liked it too. It was just a tad off key for me. I can't quite place my finger on it, but I expected more from Payne (and Clooney). The best bit was when they went to the father's house (it was that guy from Jackie Brown).

I'd give it a 7/10
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:10 PM   #11550 (permalink)
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I just watched this...



But I fell asleep halfway through. Is it worth watching the whole thing? It seems pretty creepy... but it's gotten mostly terrible reviews.
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