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Old 02-07-2021, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Submission by Michel Houellebecq

This is the greatest book I’ve read since American Pastoral

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It takes time to see how deeply a book affects you but I’m thinking this might be in my all time top five.
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The book generated controversy and criticism for its portrayal of Islam.[9] In advance of the novel's publication, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls declared, "‘France is not Michel Houellebecq . . . it’s not intolerance, hatred, fear.”[10] Lydia Kiesling, writing for Slate, stated, "There is a way in which Submission is not, strictly speaking, Islamophobic. But it does Aylan Kurdi no favors."[11] The New York Times likewise argued Submission "plays on French fears of terrorism, immigration and changing demographics."[12]
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Some critics also suggested the novel promoted misogynistic views. Erik Martiny's review in The London Magazine highlighted that "gender hierarchy is presented in the novel as the essential backbone to a healthy, stable society."[15] Heller McAlpin's review for the NPR concluded with the line, "I'm hoping that women, at least, won't take this insulting scenario lying down," while Lydia Kiesling contextualized the book's depiction of women by stating Submission contains a "Evo-Psych 101 correlation of women’s worth with their sexual viability" prevalent in both Houellebecq’s work and his personal comments.[16][17]
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This book is layered. It’s like DeLillo and Huxley and Coetzee all coming at you at the same time. I’ve never read anything like it.


Did you get your copy 2312 yet?
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Not yet. Is there any anti-muslim propaganda in it?
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Not yet. Is there any anti-muslim propaganda in it?
Besides the simple demand that the person holding the book actually has to be intelligent enough to read there’s nothing about it that’s discriminatory against Muslims.
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Figures to be a doozy.
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Figures to be a doozy.
It’s great but Ibuse’s Black Rain is the definitive and best book on that subject.
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Nah it's a hilarious mother****er, god that book made me lol. And beautiful too, it's great.
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Nah it's a hilarious mother****er, god that book made me lol. And beautiful too, it's great.
Well when I call it confusing what I’m really saying is I found it confusing. I’m sure the shortcoming was with me not one of the most heralded books in history.

I do remember certain passages being beautiful though but then I’d be like wtf is going on. A few IQ points short here, Copernicus or not.
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