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Old 11-01-2018, 07:06 AM   #6291 (permalink)
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Multiple books can approach the same theme with varying intensity and differing approaches, without one necessarily being made obsolete or a simple digression

Gibson's work is so much more about the raw experience than the themes that comparing him to other "better" Sci-Fi writers kinda comes off as that pretentious guy that mockingly compares the output of snotty punk bands to a bunch of extensive anarcho-socialist treatises
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:26 AM   #6292 (permalink)
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Multiple books can approach the same theme with varying intensity and differing approaches, without one necessarily being made obsolete or a simple digression

Gibson's work is so much more about the raw experience than the themes that comparing him to other "better" Sci-Fi writers kinda comes off as that pretentious guy that mockingly compares the output of snotty punk bands to a bunch of extensive anarcho-socialist treatises
We can circle around but it just didn’t make my balls tingle. I expected my balls to tingle so it was pretty upsetting. I called the book a failure which was overstated you said I probably just didn’t really get it which stung as being at least partly true so I dropped a bunch of names for which you mercifully didn’t call me out for being a Chula. I don’t think it stacks up with my favorite sci-fi but that just really means my balls didn’t tingle so I’m going to accept your olive branch and walk my dog.

PS **** that hack.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:37 AM   #6293 (permalink)
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Virtual Light will be my first and last. I never read anything that tried so hard and failed so badly.
I liked it, but I liked his Sprawl Trilogy books more.

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so what I’m thinking is in Virtual Light Gibson didn’t shine light on a possible conclusion of capitalism beyond a simple amplification of the present (a present that’s becoming more distant everyday)

compared to say Ursula K. Le Guin‘s The Dispossessed

Gibson’s universe is a three page digression by Le Guin. That’s how deep the disparity runs.
I’ve never read The Dispossessed (I do own it though so I’m sure I’ll read it in the near future) but I’ve found Le Guin pretty hit or miss. The Lathe of Heaven is one of my favorite sci-fi books, but The Left Hand of Darkness and The Word for World Is Forest are pretty meh.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:38 AM   #6294 (permalink)
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What's your favorite Sci-Fi novel, Hawk?

Gimme recs. Make my balls tingle.
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2312 is bad ass imo
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Dying Inside by Robert Silverberg

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Beyond Future Shock by Alex Alaniz
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Old 11-01-2018, 08:36 AM   #6297 (permalink)
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I'll start with Dying Inside, and then read through the rest
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Have you read 2001 and the other biggies by Clarke?

He’s still the gold standard imo
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:36 AM   #6299 (permalink)
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I've never read any of his works
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ffs brother

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