The Movies Thread (house, title, quote, band, 1979)

RocksyM · 04-11-2006, 04:46 PM

The best movies actually made me laugh at times.
Eddie Murphy's "Doctor Doolitle"
"Big Mamma's House"
then there is also the romantic epic "Shakespear's in Love"
Zeppelin's "The Song Remains The Same"
Any Jimi Hendrix Music Video is phenomenal.
Some of them so real it hurts and reaches your soul longing "Life Is Beautiful".
SOme of the worst. "Evita" with Madonna. Evita was a Natzi collaborator and they faked the whole movie and played her off as someone decent. A FALSE PRESENTATION of who the real Evita was payed for by her family who collected a billion dollars from six million killed and 450 thousand dead american soldiers including their wedding bands.

Mama Booze · 04-11-2006, 04:48 PM

You are blind to my point here though, one shred of anything in a movie could be true or even based on something true, but the plot of the movie could still be BASED upon that shred.

No, there are some movies that are completely ficticious and just pulled out of the writers head, but some have at least an inch of truth in them.

~~bungalow~~ · 04-11-2006, 04:56 PM

If Amityville was soley about a man who murdered his family, it would not be the horror classic that it is today. The reason people claim the movie is so terrifying is 'omg! itz based on tru events'. People have an obsession and want to believe that things such as demons exist, because it enthralls them. What makes the movie marketable, and scary is that it is 'based on a true story', what the advertisements leave out, is the fact that the parts of the movie that make it scary, are false. Just quit while you're ahead. Every movie is not based on a true story. Have you even seen the Amityville Horror? I am guessing not since you seem to believe the movie is about a man who murdered his family. It is about the next family, the next family is what it is about. It is the family after the murders. It isn't about the murders themselves. How many more ways do I have to spell it out for you?

If the movie was soley about Butch DeFeo and what led him to murder his family, it would be fine for them to take some artistic liberty, but the fact that the movie is NOT about Butch and the DeFeo family, but instead it is about the Lutzes, and what happens to them, the fact that the things they say hapen to them are not true. Therefore the movie is not true. FOR EXAMPLE:

In American History X, there is a seen where Derek is discussing with another man, the Rodney King beatings. These beatings actually happened, but the movie is fiction.

Mama Booze · 04-11-2006, 05:00 PM

Ronald Defeo Jr. murdered his family...not Butch.
Anyway, of course I've seen the film! Tis one of my favorites [the old one that is, the new one was alright...wayyyy exagerated though.]

I know tis not about the actual murders, but the family. But the whole reason it is supposedly a haunted house is BECAUSE of those murders, and without the TRUE murders, the house wouldn't be haunted.

~~bungalow~~ · 04-11-2006, 05:03 PM

You have obviously not seen the movie.

The story behind it, is that demons inside the house drove Butch to murder his family. The demons were not left in the house after murders, they were not left in the house because of the murders. The basis of the story is that the demons that were already in the house, drove Butch to do what he did.

Mama Booze · 04-11-2006, 05:06 PM

Yes I have seen the movie, and that really isn't arguable because it's a "he said she said" thing.

There was some hullaballo about it being built on an Indian Burial ground.

~~bungalow~~ · 04-11-2006, 05:09 PM

Haha, even the website that you link earlier, to prove to me that it was a true story, tells anyone who actually bothered to read on, that the whole thing was a hoax

Why would you even argue with me, when the website you provided, claims it was a hoax <-----CLICK

Mama Booze · 04-11-2006, 05:10 PM

Yes, hoax, thats fine. But it was based on something that, at the time, was BEILIEVED to be true.

~~bungalow~~ · 04-11-2006, 05:12 PM

And, I love how you took it upon yourself to correct me, and say 'It was Ronald DeFeo Jr.', when the website YOU LINKED, says it was Butch. (they are the same person)

And now you have completely changed your stance. At first you said, it is 'BASED' an a true story. And now you are saying 'it is BASED on a story that was BELIVED to be true.

Mama Booze · 04-11-2006, 05:16 PM

No, other websites and documents have said, "Ronald Defeo Jr."...which would be Butch'es son I *think*.

I did not "change my stance"! It was based on something true.
Something true at the time, they didn't know any better because it was true then.

04-11-2006, 04:46 PM	#481 (permalink)
RocksyM Groupie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21	Awesome Moves Of All Time The best movies actually made me laugh at times. Eddie Murphy's "Doctor Doolitle" "Big Mamma's House" then there is also the romantic epic "Shakespear's in Love" Zeppelin's "The Song Remains The Same" Any Jimi Hendrix Music Video is phenomenal. Some of them so real it hurts and reaches your soul longing "Life Is Beautiful". SOme of the worst. "Evita" with Madonna. Evita was a Natzi collaborator and they faked the whole movie and played her off as someone decent. A FALSE PRESENTATION of who the real Evita was payed for by her family who collected a billion dollars from six million killed and 450 thousand dead american soldiers including their wedding bands.

04-11-2006, 04:48 PM	#482 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	You are blind to my point here though, one shred of anything in a movie could be true or even based on something true, but the plot of the movie could still be BASED upon that shred. No, there are some movies that are completely ficticious and just pulled out of the writers head, but some have at least an inch of truth in them.

04-11-2006, 04:56 PM	#483 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	If Amityville was soley about a man who murdered his family, it would not be the horror classic that it is today. The reason people claim the movie is so terrifying is 'omg! itz based on tru events'. People have an obsession and want to believe that things such as demons exist, because it enthralls them. What makes the movie marketable, and scary is that it is 'based on a true story', what the advertisements leave out, is the fact that the parts of the movie that make it scary, are false. Just quit while you're ahead. Every movie is not based on a true story. Have you even seen the Amityville Horror? I am guessing not since you seem to believe the movie is about a man who murdered his family. It is about the next family, the next family is what it is about. It is the family after the murders. It isn't about the murders themselves. How many more ways do I have to spell it out for you? If the movie was soley about Butch DeFeo and what led him to murder his family, it would be fine for them to take some artistic liberty, but the fact that the movie is NOT about Butch and the DeFeo family, but instead it is about the Lutzes, and what happens to them, the fact that the things they say hapen to them are not true. Therefore the movie is not true. FOR EXAMPLE: In American History X, there is a seen where Derek is discussing with another man, the Rodney King beatings. These beatings actually happened, but the movie is fiction.

04-11-2006, 05:00 PM	#484 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	Ronald Defeo Jr. murdered his family...not Butch. Anyway, of course I've seen the film! Tis one of my favorites [the old one that is, the new one was alright...wayyyy exagerated though.] I know tis not about the actual murders, but the family. But the whole reason it is supposedly a haunted house is BECAUSE of those murders, and without the TRUE murders, the house wouldn't be haunted.

04-11-2006, 05:03 PM	#485 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	You have obviously not seen the movie. The story behind it, is that demons inside the house drove Butch to murder his family. The demons were not left in the house after murders, they were not left in the house because of the murders. The basis of the story is that the demons that were already in the house, drove Butch to do what he did.

04-11-2006, 05:06 PM	#486 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	Yes I have seen the movie, and that really isn't arguable because it's a "he said she said" thing. There was some hullaballo about it being built on an Indian Burial ground.

04-11-2006, 05:09 PM	#487 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	Haha, even the website that you link earlier, to prove to me that it was a true story, tells anyone who actually bothered to read on, that the whole thing was a hoax Why would you even argue with me, when the website you provided, claims it was a hoax <-----CLICK

04-11-2006, 05:10 PM	#488 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	Yes, hoax, thats fine. But it was based on something that, at the time, was BEILIEVED to be true.

04-11-2006, 05:12 PM	#489 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	And, I love how you took it upon yourself to correct me, and say 'It was Ronald DeFeo Jr.', when the website YOU LINKED, says it was Butch. (they are the same person) And now you have completely changed your stance. At first you said, it is 'BASED' an a true story. And now you are saying 'it is BASED on a story that was BELIVED to be true.

04-11-2006, 05:16 PM	#490 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	No, other websites and documents have said, "Ronald Defeo Jr."...which would be Butch'es son I think. I did not "change my stance"! It was based on something true. Something true at the time, they didn't know any better because it was true then.