K-Gi

So the media is telling us. The media which is controlled by those in power, which are following their own agenda.
Fear and suspicion amongst people is the greatest tool to control the masses.
What I meant with my question, which might was not very clear was: Who would support a war (ask the man and woman on the street). Who of you and me would want a war - either for ourselves or for another human being.
Who wants to have their son, father, man, brother fight and die for the profit of others.
Who would want to hide from bombs - once again for other peoples profits.

Just a thought.

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K-Gi

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IamAlejo

American News is done by private organizations, not one's which are run by the government. I'm not sitting here and blindly say that I don't know that the government hides things from the media, to say that the Government runs the media is untrue, at least in the American point of view.

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but aren't some of the most importaint and the most watched tv stations ( fox) and newspapers in america owned by republicans? which definetly influenced news and information put on those stations ( so i've seen in a documentary on the last presidential elections in america )

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It's the exact opposite. Of the major news organizations, Fox is the only one run by republicans often giving a republican form of news. ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC are not.

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K-Gi

Hey there,

as I said, the media is controlled (not run) by those in power (not government). Governments (for me) are the puppets put into the public Eye, by the ones in power. And if the puppets don't dance to the right tune, we have seen what happens to them (Kennedy) just to name one.
Media is about selling more magazines and newspapers and getting more viewers than others. Therefore so called "news" have to be more dramatic, with more pictures - and foremost there needs to be constant repetition.
Since this is a music site, why not look at the well known payola.

Did you (or anyone else of course) not wonder at times, how some songs made it to number 1 hits, to be played on mainstream radio over and over again?
Is anyone here a musician, songwriter trying to get his/her music played on mainstream radio ?
Well I guess in order to get the exposure your music deserves (and it most likely is better than the one you hear on radio and tv) you need to put down some serious money to programmers in order to get your songs played, as the latest out of court Sony settlement shows.
And how come people go out and buy the music ? Because they hear nothing else, all day. From Restaurants to Supermarkets, from TV to Radio. If often enough heard, there is a recognition factor - and we find ourselves humming a melody, which in the first place - we did not even like.

Just my take on the matter, and like it was pointed out that trying to get information from only one source is not a good idea, if one wants to find the truth (or at least get close to it)

There are a lot of questions which arise at times, once we sit down and quietly analyse the "news" we just heard. If we imagine that what we just heard, was told to us by an individual we personally know (and it was not on national tv) I guess we are much more critical on this information.
We would question this person to the core, and throw in contra-arguments.
I do the same thing with news delivered to me from the media - try to find other views on the matter and then build my opinion on it.

For example it is very interesting to watch CNN USA and CNN Europe and compare the views. Paints a pretty different pictures at times.

Just my thoughts on that,
wishing you all a good day

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IamAlejo

I'm in a rush and will read the rest later. But just looking at that first paragraph makes me think you might be too much of a conspiracist.

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K-Gi

Did you mean Conspirator - a plotter ?
please explain further, before I make any comments.

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IamAlejo

You seem to be too much into the idea that our entire government is run by aliens.

aka. You believe too much in conspiracies.

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K-Gi

Interesting how you put this. Since I have not mentioned aliens, it shows me that you must have or are reading certain literature which suggests this. (Which I have read as well - yet I have problems really believing in aliens)
Ye I am trying to get information fro different sources and listen to everybody who has to say something, and try to filter out to get to something what hopefully is closest to the truth.
The half-truth is what we mainly made to believe. This is how all works as most of us can relate to. If you are running a business and one of your employees complains about another - with so heavy accusations, that (if true) this other employee should be fired, I think it is only fair to look at all angles of the issue and talk to all people involved in order to come to a fair conclusion and as close to the truth as possible.

Please also understand that I am not talking about your government in particular. I'll talk about all of them - not excluding any.

I was in the US, during the time when satellite pictures where shown to the public, that in these bunkers are weapons of mass distructions, a truck arrived, the weapons where taken away - but they did not know where the truck went to.....(so we were told)
This to me is very strange. There are so many satellites up there, watching us every day (and believe me - they can see what time it is from your watch you are wearing on your wrist), that this statement made absolutely no sense to me.
Yet it was propaganda to get he public nervous and into fear. And once someone fears another, you gain control.

Here is a part of an article I like to share with you:

As Dr. Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda (1933-1945) noted at the time: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it". He added; "The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State".

I can only agree with the man - and he has proven his point, since his propaganda was exceptionally. (I am not saying I agree with anything which happened in germany at this time - I am looking at how he did what he did and wanted to achieve - and that he achieved it)

I just look for more information than what is delivered to me for "free" and repeated constantly.
As I mentioned payola - constant repetition and as soon as it is on main stream media - for most people it must be good.
How did the music get there ?
Someone paid for it.

Like I said earlier - just my 2 cents.

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