Support War? Support Bush? (punk, quote, Hang)

IamAlejo · 09-18-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Well for one thing, Maybe the people in LA are saying it was the mayors fault, and I don't absolve him from blame, but when you are the president of the united states, and you visit Florida right after all 4 hurricanes during an election year, and then wait 3 days before you visit one in LA because you're on vacation and you don't want it interupted. Theres no other word for that than assanine. Considering he's nearing the most vacation time ever taken by a president (and he has 3 years left)

Everyone else in the country was crucifying him for his lack of action, its gross and it shouldn't be done. From what I understand, bodies are being left out to rot, people are dying of starvation, and families that are rescued are being relocated to diffrent places, so families don't know if their children are alive or dead.

Again negligent on behalf of everyone involved. And when you appoint Micheal Browning as head of FEMA, you are to blame for his failure, when you knew he was unqualified.

As to which issues is he strong arming? Again I'll hold you as intentionally blind. Terri Shivo, ***-Marrige Amendment, Abortion; these are all issues that should be states rights, and they continually do what they want, not what the people of a state want. And presidents can repeal laws, Keyoto accord, tons of enviornmental laws have been repealed. I suppose you wouldn't notice if you like what he's doing.

And by the way, except for maybe Virgina and Texas, most red states can't support themselves, they don't make enough money, I live in MA, who gives (in ratio) a dollar to the fed and we get back like 73 cents, where as Kentucky gives a buck and gets 1.50 back. Most red states feel the money goes to welfare recipeants, and its just not the case. But Tax cuts are not a selling issue with presidents. And the middle has seen (comparitivly) no tax cuts in the last 5 years.

Tax cuts are a huge and large selling issue with Presidents and have been for quite some time. And again, it's not the cut they receive, but what is promised (often aimed at the middle class because that is the major majority).

Many issues are state's rights, but when you receive a large sum of money from the Federal Government then the Feds often do have a great deal in the state's rights. It's the state's rights to give out a drinking age, but you wanna know how that got through? It's the state's rights to have segregated schools, but we don't see any. You say he has been Democratic in the way he uses the strong arm of the executive branch to force his views, but then all the views you point out are ones where he supports the Conservative point of view (*** marriage, abortion).

Many people in the media were crucifying the President for lack of action, but I would respect the opinion of the people who were there more than the random people on the news. And I don't get your comparision of the hurricanes in Florida to the ones of New Orleans. They aren't comparable really. I doubt his reason for not going so quickly was "he didn't want to be interrupted".

TheBig3 · 09-18-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Many people in the media were crucifying the President for lack of action, but I would respect the opinion of the people who were there more than the random people on the news. And I don't get your comparision of the hurricanes in Florida to the ones of New Orleans. They aren't comparable really. I doubt his reason for not going so quickly was "he didn't want to be interrupted".

Normally I'd agree with you, but since voters tended to make decisions based on nothing they were involved in. Let me clarify. It's become comical how all red staters hate *** Marrige and Terrorism yet neither really effects their state.

Same here, maybe those people, who havn't seen papers, televisions, or much of anything since the damn thing hit probably wouldn't notice how slow footed the responce would be.

Why do you think he was so slow getting there? Because Karl Rove hadn't told him to show up yet? Because he was pushing medicare issues in Arizona, or because he was on good Morning America.

He's said things that are inherently stupid. That Micheal Browning was doing a good job, that no one thought the levee's would break.

The hurricanes are comprable. he went to Florida for votes, and now he's lame duck, he doesn't care, and the race issue is a huge case, because its hard to ignore the large minority population in New Orleans and then in FL where he visited so often, has a majority of the majority.

Seeing as I can't go back and read the other points you made without erasing the above, Ill leave it at this for now.

The bottom line is, I don't think he's doing such a great job when it comes to anything, even on the things I think were right. That speech, could have been the Gettysberg Address, it doesn't remove the years of neglect.

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