DontRunMeOver

Well it doesn't sound like he cares too much for the national media anyway, so I'm not sure how gutless it is to hurt a large establishment which you dislike, especially if you are contributing a large amount of money to the cause which it was supporting.

'West: I hate the way they portray us in the media. You see a black family, it says, "They're looting." You see a white family, it says, "They're looking for food." '

They did that with their coverage of the disaster on the UK TV too. I've never heard the word 'looting' used so much before, like they literally do save it up for black people (and Iraqis), while white people truly are described as are 'searching for supplies'. Supplies which don't belong to them - the little thieves!!

Whatever lack of political know-how he may have (comparably to the president maybe) his comments were actually incisive, however shocking the context was.

K-Gi

I'll bet you, if he would have gone off script and said that Bush is great and does everything possible there can be done we would never have heard about that he went off script.
When TV stations ask people on the street for their opinion on anything - for me it would be interesting to know how many people they asked, who said what and which interviews were broadcasted in the end. If done this way - then you and me would have really an idea what these people said.

As for Kayne West - don't know the man, so I can not have an opinion on what he knows or what he doesn't - neither if he voted or not.

As for bringing in funds when saying one's opinion or not - for me this does not matter. If I realize that we (all human beings) are all connected - then I do not need a Kayne West or anyone else to convince me to give what I can, in order to help my brother and sister.

So yes - I call it control, if I can not say what I want to say.
What happened to freedom of speech?

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Pat

Can only agree with you.
We are all being controlled on a daily basis - and it is time to wake up.
I like your song "The Hidden Hand" which says it all. Right on the spot
Great tune.

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DontRunMeOver

It didn't look like, in this case, anybody stopped him from actually saying what he wanted to say. Even after the broadcast was cut, he would still have been free to carry on talking about what he wanted. What they did do was control the medium by which he was able to relay what he was saying to miillions of people.

I'm not sure how this relates to different people's concepts of Freedom of Speech. I've actually already experienced 'Media Control' of a much less significant form when I performed a song at university. There was some swearing in the chorus of my song and the sound engineer kept cutting out the vocal mic on the lines where he knew the swearing was going to be. This was in a PUB remember, at university, where by law everybody actually had to be over 18 and he thought they shouldn't hear swearing!

IamAlejo

Freedom of speech has never had anything to do with saying whatever you want, whenever you please, where ever you want. It has had everything to do with being able to criticize your government without being able to be charged with crime being charged as a traitor.

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I have to agree with Alejo. I didn't think much of Kanye's remarks. People make passing comments like that all the time. A lot of people were frustrated with the federal response during that time. I think he was letting out emotion that really should've been taken with a grain of salt. Personally, I don't think any celebrity partisan rhetoric should even be publicly scrutizined like Kanye's, regardless of whether it was "crossing the line" or not.

Also, I think when we set global priorities, we'd place national and international security ahead of the domestic policies you outlined, which btw are problems experienced by most countries. We have many different departments in government that are specialized in each particular area. Making GWB the scapegoat of all those "problems" is just an easy, lazy thing to do.

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Right - some people just disappear or have "accidents" - or if prominent enough - get shot.
(Just my take on this matter)

So you say it has to do with being able to criticize your government without consequnces to you ?
Is being not broadcasted not a consequence ?

As it was announced, the part where Kayne speaks will be cut out of later (not live) broadcasts. This means the media is controlling the information you are receiving. No they did not lie - but they did only tell you half of the truth in showing you only parts of the entire broadcast. This is where the danger lays - in the half truth we are being fed.

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one_more_atrocity

bush has the intellect of a fish and a dumb one at that!! and he smells of poo poo!!!

DontRunMeOver

You have an excellent point.