Originally Posted by Oriphiel

I fell in love with Goth Rock almost entirely because of Elphenor, even as I rolled my eyes every time that he seemed to misunderstand it on a fundamental level with his aggressively toxic party boy stunts; because ultimately in the world of the bats, the very worst and most boring thing that a person can be is an annoying, selfish, and ignorant, drunk.

Originally Posted by elphenor

this may or may not be true but would definitely describe at least 80% of the Gothic Rock idles

Originally Posted by Frownland

Yeah it describes 4/5 MB members pretty well.