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Old 05-28-2021, 01:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if this argument has any merit to it, but my feeling is that entropy can decrease locally while still increase for the whole system
This is certainly true, the rest of your reasoning holds too. I don't really see the link with evolution though Or are they just trying to argue that photosynthesis contradicts thermodynamics?
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This is certainly true, the rest of your reasoning holds too. I don't really see the link with evolution though Or are they just trying to argue that photosynthesis contradicts thermodynamics?
Haha, I edited that part out again and it was the best one

They'd say evolution orders energy, not just from photosynthesis/photons, but from inorganic chemicals, into molecules like proteins and DNA, hence reduces entropy in the universe.
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Yeah that's just silly. They also should keep in mind that entropy decrease is not 'forbidden' by physics: it just comes at an energy cost, which means that it does actually happen if it is compensated by a higher energy reduction as a consequence
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Yeah that's just silly. They also should keep in mind that entropy decrease is not 'forbidden' by physics: it just comes at an energy cost, which means that it does actually happen if it is compensated by a higher energy reduction as a consequence
Right? That's what I always say

Thanks for your input, Marie
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