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Old 05-16-2021, 02:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't have a car so it's just the one key. (I guess I could put my old skeleton keys on them?) It's attached to this unwieldy owl coin purse because I'm less likely to lose it that way. (Probably need something bigger honestly, with flashing lights on it or something so I can easily find it amongst the various piles in my room)

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Old 05-16-2021, 02:09 PM   #32 (permalink)
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^ Nice keychain.
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Old 10-30-2021, 06:35 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Trying to sort out the KeyRing Board...What fits where...crumbs some of those keys look like they are very old, and Prison like even.

Use to have one set of keys with a tiny pair of working sissors on them..and a corkscrew..can see the bottle opener though...
There you go Mindfulness, just for you this is...
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Old 10-31-2021, 09:55 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't have a car so it's just the one key. (I guess I could put my old skeleton keys on them?) It's attached to this unwieldy owl coin purse because I'm less likely to lose it that way. (Probably need something bigger honestly, with flashing lights on it or something so I can easily find it amongst the various piles in my room)

That one is so cute!

My own keyring is unadorned. Although it has more keys than goldendoodles, I'd like to make clear that I don't subscribe to the macho blagh that your collection of keys is indicative of your self-importance

In my city, for instance, most houses have a padlock to the entrance area, two locks on the front door, plus a padlock on the chain that ensures nobody steals your gas bottles, so even a person of modest circumstances has quite a few. Other keys for me include car plus bike chain lock. Finally I have several keys in the category, "Better not throw this away even though I can't remember what it was for".
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Old 11-05-2021, 10:30 PM   #35 (permalink)
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My keys: House, vehicle. My life is uncomplicated and void of personality.

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Old 11-10-2021, 04:30 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Is there any reason why Keys (for opening doors) and Keys (as in a keyboard), are homonyms?
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Wow! That long key with a black plastic head is pretty strange looking, Mucha!

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Is there any reason why Keys (for opening doors) and Keys (as in a keyboard), are homonyms?
I thought this was an interesting question, so looked on google:

Spoiler for origins of "key":

key (n.1)
"instrument for opening locks," Middle English keie, from Old English cæg "metal piece that works a lock, key" literal and figurative ("solution, explanation, one who or that which opens the way or explains"), a word of unknown origin, abnormal evolution, and no sure cognates other than Old Frisian kei.

Perhaps it is related to Middle Low German keie "lance, spear" on notion of "tool to cleave with," from Proto-Germanic *ki- "to cleave, split" (cognates: German Keil "wedge," Gothic us-kijans "come forth," said of seed sprouts, keinan "to germinate"). But Liberman writes, "The original meaning of *kaig-jo- was presumably '*pin with a twisted end.' Words with the root *kai- followed by a consonant meaning 'crooked, bent; twisted' are common only in the North Germanic languages." Compare also Sanskrit kuncika- "key," from kunc- "make crooked."

Modern pronunciation is a northern variant predominating from c. 1700; earlier and in Middle English it often was pronounced "kay." Meaning "that which holds together other parts" is from 1520s. Meaning "explanation of a solution" (to a set problem, code, etc.) is from c.1600.

The musical sense originally was "tone, note" (mid-15c.). In music theory, the sense developed 17c. to "sum of the melodic and harmonic relationships in the tones of a scale," also "melodic and harmonic relationships centering on a given tone." Probably this is based on a translation of Latin clavis "key," used by Guido for "lowest tone of a scale," or French clef (see clef; also see keynote). Sense of "mechanism on a musical instrument operated by the player's fingers" is from c. 1500, probably also suggested by uses of clavis. OED says this use "appears to be confined to Eng[lish]." First of organs and pianos, by 1765 of wind instruments; transferred to telegraphy by 1837 and later to typewriters (1876).


Short answer:
Key as in lock comes from the sound of an old germanic tribes word, originally written in Old English as "caeg". Old English means that it comes from about 500 C.E.

Key as in keyboard, comes, via the piano perhaps, from the translation of a Latin musical term, "clavis", and dates from about 1450 C.E.

That's a thousand-year difference in origin, so I'm going for "no connection between the two meanings, just a coincidence of sound and spelling."

The two different origins of "key" reminded me of a curious aspect of English. It has lots of simple everyday words that come from very old germanic tribes. Cat, dog, cow are useful words when you live in a rudimentary village (or so I imagine). But then English also has elegant Latin-based words from when it was invaded by the French and became connected to the Classical world of Rome and Greece. So we have the more scientific adjectives, feline, canine, bovine.

So that's the opposite of the word "key". Instead of one word with two unrelated meanings, with "cat-feline" we have a connected meaning, but two unrelated words.
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Old 11-10-2021, 11:14 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Well done on that post... Lisnaholic.
..information keeps the brain going..
..this is a another Photo from one I took originally, how I missed that funny Key I have no idea
but anything for a laugh right now...


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