Cultural appropriation - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge
Cultural appropriation Cultural appropriation
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
Page 4 of 6 « First 23 4 56
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-30-2021, 05:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Black Country
Posts: 8,827
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marie Monday View Post
So to give an example that you may relate to more: imagine chav culture would become fashionable among typical tory kids. So they'd dress like that etc. just for fun, but they'd still act just as snobbish. That would feel wrong, wouldn't it?
Well they kind of already do in places, they definitely dress, speak and listen to the music but I don't care tbh.
Cuthbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 05:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
the bantering battleaxe
 
Marie Monday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cute Post Malone's mom
Posts: 3,394
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthbert View Post
Well they kind of already do in places, they definitely dress, speak and listen to the music but I don't care tbh.
fair enough, not being bothered about that is a heatlhy attitude, but I think people are justified in finding a phenomenon like that a bit insulting. And apart from just causing hurt feelings it can have harmful consequences. Cultural exchange, in the nice sense, happens when you don't only get in touch with aspects of other cultures, but also the people. If you take from other cultures without any respect for the people, you exclude those people from the process. Then it becomes taking things away from a culture, not sharing it. In many cases that's fine because nothing is really lost to you if people copy things from your culture, but sometimes things are lost: like the historical example of stolen art, or people profiting off the copied culture while you get nothing. Or they don't try to understand the culture they take from you, they make it into something else, and then that leads to misunderstandings and prejudice about you.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
You sound like Buffy after they dragged her back from Heaven.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WWWP View Post
I want to open a school for MB's lost boys and teach them basic coping skills and build up their self esteem and strengthen their emotional intelligence and teach them about vegetables and institutionalized racism and sexism and then they'll all build a bronze statue of me in my honor and my bronzed titties will forever be groped by the grubby paws of you ****ing whiny pathetic white boys.
Marie Monday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 06:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
Cuter Than Post Malone.
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,978
Default
That video of Machine Gun Kelly dancing on a table for a bunch of record execs while being careful not to step on their laptops and calling it "punk" is exactly what harmful cultural appropriation is. If you don't get why that's offensive I can't help ya.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 06:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
the bantering battleaxe
 
Marie Monday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cute Post Malone's mom
Posts: 3,394
Default
cancel that bitch
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
You sound like Buffy after they dragged her back from Heaven.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WWWP View Post
I want to open a school for MB's lost boys and teach them basic coping skills and build up their self esteem and strengthen their emotional intelligence and teach them about vegetables and institutionalized racism and sexism and then they'll all build a bronze statue of me in my honor and my bronzed titties will forever be groped by the grubby paws of you ****ing whiny pathetic white boys.
Marie Monday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 06:25 PM   #35 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
black culture is in part born out of a response to oppression imposed by whites and we instinctually know this, and that's why when we see a white guy with dreads we cringe a little
It's not harmful cultural appropriation though. It doesn't harm black people and in general is just white people doing what black people do. It's not like the Redskins or the Indians sports teams with feather headresses that appropriate harmful stereotypes of Native Americans that allow white people to "own" indigeonous culture in a way that reinforces that they are savages.

And it absolutely isn't the same as minstrel shows that are just straight up "Look at how dumb black people are."

Cultural appropriation is a neutral concept. The context is what makes it potentially problematic. Pretty sure this is why the popular cultural appropriation discourse was so short lived. A bunch of idiots harped on about it for a bit but the nuance necessary for it to be relevant precluded it being any kind of central leftist discourse cause cultural appropriation in general is fine.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 06:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
the bantering battleaxe
 
Marie Monday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cute Post Malone's mom
Posts: 3,394
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
It's not harmful cultural appropriation though. It doesn't harm black people and in general is just white people doing what black people do. It's not like the Redskins or the Indians sports teams with feather headresses that appropriate harmful stereotypes of Native Americans that allow white people to "own" indigeonous culture in a way that reinforces that they are savages.

And it absolutely isn't the same as minstrel shows that are just straight up "Look at how dumb black people are."

Cultural appropriation is a neutral concept. The context is what makes it potentially problematic. Pretty sure this is why the popular cultural appropriation discourse was so short lived. A bunch of idiots harped on about it for a bit but the nuance necessary for it to be relevant precluded it being any kind of central leftist discourse cause cultural appropriation in general is fine.
yeah that nails it I think
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
You sound like Buffy after they dragged her back from Heaven.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WWWP View Post
I want to open a school for MB's lost boys and teach them basic coping skills and build up their self esteem and strengthen their emotional intelligence and teach them about vegetables and institutionalized racism and sexism and then they'll all build a bronze statue of me in my honor and my bronzed titties will forever be groped by the grubby paws of you ****ing whiny pathetic white boys.
Marie Monday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 06:34 PM   #37 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default
How is this cringe

__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.
Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 06:36 PM   #38 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
it's not necessarily harmful but it is cringe
Most people are cringe.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 08:42 PM   #39 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,992
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
Stolen artifacts are a more concerning aspect of cultural appropriation than people preferring Macklemore to Nas imo.
Especially magical ones.
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2021, 03:48 AM   #40 (permalink)
jwb
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,403
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
Stolen artifacts are a more concerning aspect of cultural appropriation than people preferring Macklemore to Nas imo.
Nah... Preferring Macklemore is worse tbh
jwb is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 4 of 6 « First 23 4 56

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Similar Threads


Terms & Privacy - Contact Us - Music Banter - Archive - Top

© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.