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Eleanor Rigby 14 03-15-2021 02:47 PM

The Official Math Thread
 
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Any type of question, problem or coment related with the marvellous world of mathematics is welcome.
I'm going to start with a problem I have to solve but I can't.
It's the following one:
Juan says to Luisa: If you give me 3 coins I will have "n" times as many as you'll have. Luisa responds:
True, but if you give me "n" coins, then I will have three times what you have left. For what values of "n" are these statements true?
If you know how to solve it, please help.
I've already started solving it, but I can't finish it:

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 03:06 PM

the maths you wrote here aren't incorrect, but I still think the problem isn't solvable as it is stated here :(

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-15-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166298)
the maths you wrote here aren't incorrect, but I still think the problem isn't solvable as it is stated here :(

I think I'm about to finish it. Not sure if the solutions will be correct but I gotta try. It's not a compulsory thing, it's a competition, but it is sort of compulsory for me :laughing:
If I find a possible solution I'll post it here.

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 03:14 PM

actually, they say values in plural, so could it be that they want you to express n in terms of x or y? that seems unlikely to me because I guess they'd tell you explicitly if they want that, but idk

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-15-2021 03:19 PM

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Hell, if this ain't correct i'm gonna cry
P.S. some things are in SPanish
Edit: I got confused and wrote m instead of n somewhere, i gotta change that
But i think in general it's right

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 03:27 PM

yoo I got the answer. omg jesus I swear to god normally I'm way better and quicker with these things. I just thought this was a default kind of math problem that it's not

edit: what you're doing here is the right method, I haven't checked whether all the maths details are correct
edit 2: so I had a look, and why are you splitting the fraction in two at some point? I think when you're saying n+13 >= 3n - 1 you're neglecting the +4 term you have

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-15-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166303)
yoo I got the answer. omg jesus I swear to god normally I'm way better and quicker with these things. I just thought this was a delault kind of math problem that it's not

edit: what you're doing here is the right method, I haven't checked whether all the maths details are correct
edit 2: so I had a look, and why are you splitting the fraction in two at some point? I think when you're saying n+13 >= 3n - 1 you're neglecting the +4 term you have

Idk if I understood the question correctly what I meant is that because x,y and n have to be natural numbers. Also, y=4+ n+13/3n-1. For "y" to be a natural number, n+13/3n-1 also has to be a natural number. I'm not neglecting the 4 cause while calculating "y" I give a natural value below 7 to "n" calculate the n+13/3n-1 and add 4.
P.S. What I need is an Official English Beginners Thread :laughing:

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 03:48 PM

But actually in your case n+13/3n-1 can be a negative integer up to -4, so it doesn't have to be a natural number

What I had got after some algebra was: x = (7n+3)/(3-n)
which needs to be a natural number, like you said. Then, since the numerator is always positive the denominator needs to be positive too, so n < 3. Then both n=1 and n=2 work
we got different results though, but that may be me because I'm sloppy with algebra

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-15-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166312)
ah ok good. What I had got after some algebra was: x = (7n+3)/(3-n)
which needs to be a natural number, like you said. Then, since the numerator is always positive the denominator needs to be positive too, so n < 3. Then both n=1 and n=2 work
we got different results though, but that may be me because I'm sloppy with algebra

I got 3 and 7 as possible results too. :eek: I'm going to check again if they fit as solutions.
P.S. Getting excited at a Math problem lol
Edit: They can be possible solutions.
I just replaced x+3=n (y-3) and 3(x-n)=y+n with the numbers obtained.
If n is 3 and both Juan and Luisa have 6 coins:
6+3=3(6-3)
and
3(6-3)=3+6
If n is 7 and Juan has 11 coins and Luisa 5:
11+3=7(5-3)
and
3(11-7)=5+12

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 03:56 PM

math problems are exciting. Even though this one got me feeling properly embarassed about how long it took me to realise the obvious

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 03:59 PM

no you're right, I filled it in and n=7 works so I made a typo somewhere

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-15-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166315)
no you're right, I filled it in and n=7 works so I made a typo somewhere

Yes and 3, too, see my edit of the previous post
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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166314)
math problems are exciting. Even though this one got me feeling properly embarassed about how long it took me to realise the obvious

Very exciting lol
And thank you very much for your help!!:love:

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 04:05 PM

my 'help' lol
https://www.memecreator.org/static/i...es/1302108.jpg

I found my typo too, I lost a factor n somewhere on the way through the derivation. smgdh

The Batlord 03-15-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166315)
no you're right, I filled it in and n=7 works so I made a typo somewhere

I'm Commander Shepherd and this is my favorite post on the forum.

Norg 03-15-2021 04:41 PM

da hell is dis **** ..????

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...bac3541a778973

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 04:43 PM

it's the standard model <3

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166325)
I'm Commander Shepherd and this is my favorite post on the forum.

is this some nerd joke I'm too edgily anti-nerd to understand?

The Batlord 03-15-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166331)
is this some nerd joke I'm too edgily anti-nerd to understand?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-03-2016/gVRAPK.gif

Marie Monday 03-15-2021 04:56 PM

https://media3.giphy.com/media/N9oKhuvEJJlLy/200.gif

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-16-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166325)
I'm Commander Shepherd and this is my favorite post on the forum.

:confused:
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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2166326)

I understand that better than my history teacher's handwriting :)

Trollheart 03-16-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleanor Rigby 14 (Post 2166395)
:confused:

I don't get it either. I guess you're too young and I'm too... not quite as young as you. Um.
:shycouch:

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-16-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2166423)
I don't get it either. I guess you're too young and I'm too... not quite as young as you. Um.
:shycouch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_Shepard

Trollheart 03-16-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleanor Rigby 14 (Post 2166430)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Care_Smiley_Face ;)

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-16-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2166448)

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Originally Posted by Eleanor Rigby 14 (Post 2156839)
I guess I'll have to stop posting the "I don't understand" reply.

:o:

Frownland 03-17-2021 05:02 PM

https://64.media.tumblr.com/64bf3ed0...gpe1o1_400.jpg

SGR 03-17-2021 05:41 PM

Damn, I thought this was the Official Meth Thread. I gotta get my eyes checked.

Marie Monday 03-17-2021 05:48 PM

Math: not even once.

Key 03-17-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2166587)
Damn, I thought this was the Official Meth Thread. I gotta get my eyes checked.

This is what i came in here to say. But you said it already. So now I dont have to. Thank you. You did my work for me.

jwb 03-17-2021 10:47 PM

bruh i thought of making that same joke days ago when i first saw this thread and contemplated posting it and then said nah ... too corny

The Batlord 03-17-2021 10:49 PM

When I have a day off I usually don't take one to save on the water bill.

jwb 03-17-2021 10:49 PM

also, math is gay

Frownland 03-17-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2166587)
Damn, I thought this was the Official Meth Thread. I gotta get my eyes checked.

We could aim for both but the only methematician I know is Paul Erdős.

Key 03-17-2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2166605)
bruh i thought of making that same joke days ago when i first saw this thread and contemplated posting it and then said nah ... too corny

I'm surprised they were able to go through equations without somebody saying it. Its almost as if the thread was used for its intended purpose.

Marie Monday 03-18-2021 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2166605)
bruh i thought of making that same joke days ago when i first saw this thread and contemplated posting it and then said nah ... too corny

Tired midnight me likes corny math jokes
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2166607)
also, math is gay

Hell yes

Trollheart 03-18-2021 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2166587)
Damn, I thought this was the Official Meth Thread. I gotta get my eyes checked.

:laughing:
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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166588)
Math: not even once.

:confused:

SGR 03-18-2021 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2166609)
We could aim for both but the only methematician I know is Paul Erdős.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/2c...dfc081d07a.gif

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Originally Posted by Key (Post 2166611)
I'm surprised they were able to go through equations without somebody saying it. Its almost as if the thread was used for its intended purpose.

Which, it should be noted, is entirely against the ethos that has been established here at MusicBanter and is likely another effect of OH's recent absence.

Eleanor Rigby 14 03-18-2021 09:58 AM

You people talkin' here about meth and I don't even know what meth is :laughing:

Trollheart 03-18-2021 09:59 AM

Nor should you, at fourteen years of age.

The Batlord 03-18-2021 10:49 AM

Ask your mother.

SGR 03-18-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166627)
Ask your mother.

What is that in your profile picture anyway? Is that gundam?


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