The Thread of Cancellation

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

If he still wants to use his status over women he employs to intimidate women into letting him do that **** then yes. As far as I've seen he's trying to pretend like nothing happened, which does not speak to him changing anything about his behaviour or perspective. People who abuse power dynamics aren't victims.

dunno i feel like with all the heat and attention he got from it he'd be really stupid to try that **** again lol. Part of what makes people do **** like that is the assumption that they can get away with it..

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by jwb

dunno i feel like with all the heat and attention he got from it he'd be really stupid to try that **** again lol. Part of what makes people do **** like that is the assumption that they can get away with it..

All of what makes them do **** like that is that they want to push personal boundaries to prove that they can. Maybe if he hadn't had that bit in his show where he's calling a woman a **** for talking during his set I wouldn't be so unwilling to give him a second chance. Maybe if his comeback had included addressing the issue I'd be willing to believe he'd given some thought to his behavior.

And maybe if he'd done that with his whole shtick being that he's a schlubby guy who's honest about how schlubby he is I wouldn't be so disinterested in more of his standup about how honest he is about being schlubby. Cause now I'm just gonna be thinking what a dishonest pussy he is.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

All of what makes them do **** like that is that they want to push personal boundaries to prove that they can.

i think that the idea you can get away with it definitely is part of it... That's part of why the me too movement manifested imo is cause there was a long standing culture of looking the other way..

Maybe if he hadn't had that bit in his show where he's calling a woman a **** for talking during his set I wouldn't be so unwilling to give him a second chance.

talking during a comedians set is disrespectful enough that i think if they call you a **** that's fair game.. in fact you probably are a ****

Maybe if his comeback had included addressing the issue I'd be willing to believe he'd given some thought to his behavior.

And maybe if he'd done that with his whole shtick being that he's a schlubby guy who's honest about how schlubby he is I wouldn't be so disinterested in more of his standup about how honest he is about being schlubby. Cause now I'm just gonna be thinking what a dishonest pussy he is.

You don't have to be a fan to not necessarily think he needs to stay cancelled

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by jwb

talking during a comedians set is disrespectful enough that i think if they call you a **** that's fair game.. in fact you probably are a ****

Agreed but why did it have to be a woman? I can't read his mind obviously but given what came out I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

You don't have to be a fan to not necessarily think he needs to stay cancelled

I'm not really advocating any actions. I'm saying **** him I don't care if his career dies cause he's already shown he uses his career to abuse people who work under him and isn't showing any sign he's going to change his behavior. He's not entitled to be a rich celebrity.

[WWWP]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm not really advocating any actions. I'm saying **** him I don't care if his career dies cause he's already shown he uses his career to abuse people who work under him and isn't showing any sign he's going to change his behavior. He's not entitled to be a rich celebrity.

Bold for emphasis. Not only has he not indicated he intends to change his behavior, he hasn’t quite acknowledged or taken accountability for it outside of whatever PR statement was released.

He’s a piece of ****. Doesn’t make his old jokes any less funny, IMO, but I’m not interested in his thoughts or ideas on the world now. I’m certainly not going to be purchasing any specials like I did in the past. Be petty with your money, kids.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by WWWP

Bold for emphasis. Not only has he not indicated he intends to change his behavior, he hasn’t quite acknowledged or taken accountability for it outside of whatever PR statement was released.

He’s a piece of ****. Doesn’t make his old jokes any less funny, IMO, but I’m not interested in his thoughts or ideas on the world now. I’m certainly not going to be purchasing any specials like I did in the past. Be petty with your money, kids.

but you still enjoy his old material? He wasn't any less of a pos back then..

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Agreed but why did it have to be a woman? I can't read his mind obviously but given what came out I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not saying it's not sexist i just don't care tbh. It's not harmful enough for me to feel bad for her.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by jwb

I'm not saying it's not sexist i just don't care tbh. It's not harmful enough for me to feel bad for her.

The context is different. It's no longer a comedian defending his profession. It's just a pathetic little worm lashing out at women.

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