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Lucem Ferre 05-01-2021 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171202)
Black health experts have been pushing for the menthol ban for at least a decade now

it's common knowledge that it's down to racist advertising strategies

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Lucem Ferre 05-01-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171207)
seriously that anyone would frame this as Biden being racist...

it's an issue he wouldn't give a **** about if it wasn't for black health activists working towards it for years now

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jwb 05-01-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171198)
Culture is conformity

yeh, to have the courage to toe the twitter leftist party line is so very non conformist of you pal

Did you know you're actually the first person ever to retroactively become obsessed with post punk via the internet???? Here's your special identity prize. :bonkhead:

jwb 05-01-2021 10:30 PM

That's very punk rock. :band:

The Batlord 05-02-2021 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171207)
seriously that anyone would frame this as Biden being racist...

it's an issue he wouldn't give a **** about if it wasn't for black health activists working towards it for years now

Presumably because he didn't talk to any black people about this.

Lucem Ferre 05-02-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171242)
Delmonte Jefferson

Executive Director of The Center for Black Health & Equity

https://www.publichealthlawcenter.or...fferson-naatpn

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jwb 05-02-2021 01:16 PM

Everyone knows that if you ban menthols all that's going to happen is black people are going to start going to the back alleys to get their cigs

I dunno why biden supports it I don't necessarily think he has racist motivations but I am highly suspect of what motivates the 7/11 clerk to support this..... I wonder what his reason could be :confused: ;)

The Batlord 05-02-2021 01:30 PM

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Fox News doesn't have the correct take on this by calling it condescending liberal paternalism.

jwb 05-02-2021 01:40 PM

Is the reasoning that menthols are actually significantly worse for you than normal cigs or is it just cause they're the cigarette of choice for most black smokers?

The Batlord 05-02-2021 01:53 PM

I've heard they're worse but I don't remember all the reasons other than just the fiber glass.

jwb 05-02-2021 02:11 PM

Yeah worse sure but how much worse? Enough to ban? Might as well just ban cigs if they're that serious about the health aspect

jwb 05-02-2021 02:20 PM

Honestly though whether this is a good policy or not it's bound to make more people dislike Biden. I dunno why democrats are so **** at playing this game. Biden was there through the Obama years he should know better than to hang his hat on a largely symbolic policy that is going to piss off the working class in the short term and make you look like a nanny state elitist while any benefits from the policy are going to come long after you're out of office.


It's similar to the banning put cigs from restaurants and bars in Ny. Retroactively a good policy but at the time it just made New Yorkers hate their mayor.

Dems need to step their politics game up before they give us another Trump

SGR 05-02-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2171286)
Yeah worse sure but how much worse? Enough to ban? Might as well just ban cigs if they're that serious about the health aspect

In Biden's America, we only smoke healthy cigarettes.

Lucem Ferre 05-02-2021 06:07 PM

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Frownland 05-02-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171309)
it's against my libertarian leanings

but the motivation is that it would save black lives

Gotta keep the slaves in shape, that'll get you the best ROI.

jwb 05-02-2021 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171309)
it's against my libertarian leanings

but the motivation is that it would save black lives

So would shutting down popeyes.

The Batlord 05-02-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171309)
it's against my libertarian leanings

but the motivation is that it would save black lives

The motivation is that the poors can't think for themselves and need the rich to do it for them.

jwb 05-03-2021 01:39 AM

But basically the policy is to ban menthols cause those are the cigs preferred by black people on average? Is that the basic logic?

The Batlord 05-03-2021 04:37 AM

I don't doubt what you say but this still smacks of Bloomberg banning large sodas.

Psy-Fi 05-03-2021 06:01 AM

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B'wana Beast

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The series is infamous for its portrayal of an American male savior in Africa; the character's first name, "Bwana", is a Swahili word for leader or "master".
I used to refer to Biden as "Corvette Joe" but "B'wana Beast Biden" has mucho more machismo. :D

jwb 05-03-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2171346)
I don't doubt what you say but this still smacks of Bloomberg banning large sodas.

yeah and why not just ban cigs altogether if we're worried about the health risks?

Cause people will go ape****, that's why.

But banning menthols is gonna piss people off too, just less so. They're scared to go all in and ban cigs so they are just gonna make things less convenient for smokers and hope that gets people to stop.

The Batlord 05-03-2021 01:11 PM

On the bright side I'll never have to worry about bumming the wrong kind of cigarette. Menthols really are nasty.

Exo 05-03-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2171376)
On the bright side I'll never have to worry about bumming the wrong kind of cigarette. Menthols really are nasty.

I always hated them too. Like smoking a thin mint except it's not slightly delicious.

Lucem Ferre 05-03-2021 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2171341)
at some point one of you guys are going to have to run at least a Google search on this

menthols are proven more likely to hook young smokers and are probably a bit more toxic

I got curious about a year ago as to why people smoke the cig brands they do

I think you explained it very clearly.

It's a more toxic cigarette marketed towards black people like they're trying to make money off of hurting black people.

The ban is kind of stupid in the grand scheme of things but if they don't get why a black health organization would want to ban it they're kind of dumb. I'd push a campaign to inform people rather than a ban but that's me. Not just on the racist marketing of that cigarette but also the way they manipulated women to smoke through the feminist movement.

BassoonPlatoon 05-03-2021 07:02 PM

I just want my candy cigarettes.

jwb 05-03-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2171388)
I think you explained it very clearly.

It's a more toxic cigarette marketed towards black people like they're trying to make money off of hurting black people.

The ban is kind of stupid in the grand scheme of things but if they don't get why a black health organization would want to ban it they're kind of dumb. I'd push a campaign to inform people rather than a ban but that's me. Not just on the racist marketing of that cigarette but also the way they manipulated women to smoke through the feminist movement.

I'm honestly not aware of whatever racist marketing you're referring to. I very rarely see cigs advertised except at gas stations whether it has the brand and the price.

In the grand scheme of things I truly don't give a **** whether menthols are banned just like I dont give a **** whether ar15s are banned.... I just think it's bad politics and will make him less popular.

Lucem Ferre 05-03-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2171463)
I'm honestly not aware of whatever racist marketing you're referring to. I very rarely see cigs advertised except at gas stations whether it has the brand and the price.

In the grand scheme of things I truly don't give a **** whether menthols are banned just like I dont give a **** whether ar15s are banned.... I just think it's bad politics and will make him less popular.

He's obviously talking about it's historical marketing but if you really want to know then google it, bitch.

Yeah, it is stupid though. How are we supposed to have a working class revolution with out assault rifles and menthols? With hand guns and Virginia Slims looking like a bunch of pansies?

jwb 05-04-2021 01:14 AM

I don't care enough to Google it. You guys should explain it to me since you know so much about it. Otherwise I'll just stay ignorant lol I really dgaf

Lucem Ferre 05-04-2021 02:18 AM

I don't, I'm just going off of what elph said.

jwb 05-04-2021 02:34 AM

That's your first mistake comrade

The Batlord 05-04-2021 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2171466)
He's obviously talking about it's historical marketing but if you really want to know then google it, bitch.

Yeah, it is stupid though. How are we supposed to have a working class revolution with out assault rifles and menthols? With hand guns and Virginia Slims looking like a bunch of pansies?

Derringers and Virginia Slims.

Oop. Just popped a boner.

Psy-Fi 05-04-2021 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BassoonPlatoon (Post 2171432)
I just want my candy cigarettes.


BassoonPlatoon 05-05-2021 09:45 AM

They really put "can I bum a smoke" on the packaging. Lol what a different time.

Psy-Fi 05-17-2021 06:28 AM

Chrissy Teigen’s cookware pulled from Macy’s website for trolling Courtney Stodden

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Chrissy Teigen’s cookware line has been taken down from Macy’s website just days after she apologized for being a troll who encouraged Courtney Stodden to take a “dirt nap.”

adidasss 05-17-2021 06:36 AM

Cool. I like nasty people paying for their nastiness. At least a little bit. All of these people are too rich and famous to really suffer but it does send a message out. Be careful what you do, it might come back to bite you on the ass.

The Batlord 05-17-2021 11:45 AM

I had to Google them both and they look like the basicest of bitches.

adidasss 05-17-2021 08:23 PM

Teigen was supposed to be a level above the other one, she's married to John Legend after all, you'd think she'd be more classy. Not sure why she would bother to troll that person, but then bullies be bullies.

BassoonPlatoon 05-20-2021 05:12 PM

Yet another story about something that happened a decade ago.

jwb 05-20-2021 09:25 PM

that broad was 16 and dating a 50 year old man.... Somewhere out there OH just pitched a tent

Lucem Ferre 05-20-2021 09:49 PM

I miss OH.


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