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adidasss 12-04-2020 08:45 AM

The British wit
 
Ok, I just can't with these people, another Guardian article that has me giggling like an idiot.:laughing: Here transcribed in its entirety:

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Main thoughts on the vaccine: I will ingest this freedom juice any which way it comes. Jab? Yes. Two jabs? Yes, please. Down a vodka ice luge fashioned in a tableau of Jonathan Van-Tam and Chris Whitty looking mildly withering at a lectern? Let me just get my best party dress on. (I understand the product needs to be kept cold, so this feels like one method of delivery that The Science should maybe consider.)

Of course, it’s important to understand that other people have more complex feelings about what might happen. Take former actor Laurence Fox, London’s most fragile man, who recently addressed health secretary Matt Hancock directly via Twitter. “I’m sure I don’t need to say this,” began Laurence promisingly, before spoiling it all by saying it anyway. “But if you do try and take away the last vestiges of my personal freedom by trying to stick a needle in my arm without consent, bring at least four police officers with you, you are going to need them.”

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Wow. I know his TV agent dumped him, but that’s a long way to go for a headline reading “Laurence Fox in cop drama”. Also, you’re going to need one police officer, tops, and could probably do it with a community support officer with a bad back. Still, what’s not to be amused by in the way Laurence pictures vaccination rollout, where the actual secretary of state for health arrives at his flat/faux-boho stockade with four police officers and a big syringe? Perhaps our hero wrote the tweet “after lunch” (an increasingly elastic timeframe, by the looks of things).

Back in the rational world, and without wishing to go out on a limb here, it is fair to say the vaccine is INCREDIBLY GOOD NEWS. And being the first country to approve the vaccine, and therefore the first custodian of said incredibly good news – well, that allows the UK to be positive, magnanimous, gracious and encouraging to the other countries and blocs just behind us in the quest to end the virus that has caused, and continues to cause, death, economic devastation, and loss of freedom and normality all over the world.

Cut to Gavin Williamson’s Thursday morning radio appearance on LBC. “I just reckon,” reckoned the education secretary, “we’ve got the very best people in this country and we’ve obviously got the best medical regulator, much better than the French have, much better than the Belgians have, much better than the Americans have. That doesn’t surprise me at all, because we’re a much better country than every single one of them.” And yet, if that’s the case, explain how our education secretary is Gavin Williamson?

In fairness to Gavin, if you actually listen to the clip, it does seem as if he was attempting a joke. And again, in fairness to him, it does seem that he was also attempting some kind of joke back when he made his famous suggestion that Vladimir Putin’s Russia should “go away and shut up”. On these pieces of evidence, then, the results are in. The statement “the secretary of state was attempting a joke” belongs in the same category of outcome as “the secretary of state was attempting to bath a toaster”. Don’t do it, Gav. It ends badly.

I keep reading that the government and health authorities want trusted celebrities to advocate taking the vaccine. If so, what was the thinking here? “Right, Attenborough’s not answering the phone – let’s get Gavin Williamson out there as a stopgap.”

Despite being the tone-deaf witterings of a serially insecure man, Williamson’s comments got such blanket coverage that it doesn’t seem to be beyond the realms that Anthony Fauci got wind of them. The top US infectious diseases expert certainly seemed to be giving some sort of slapdown when he suggested the UK had “rushed” approval – comments he has since walked back. Perhaps Fauci, too, somehow missed the joke element to Williamson’s posturing. You can hardly blame him – he’s been dealing with Earth’s most insecure man for the past year, and is bound to have a reflexive response to this kind of thing.

As for the business of politicising the approval of the vaccine in any way whatsoever in an era of festering anti-vax sentiment … that feels even more wildly unnecessary and counterproductive. In order for the vaccine to be effective, as many people as possible need to feel minded to take it, and anything that plays on divisions in our already grimly polarised era is crazily unhelpful. Trying to conscript the vaccine into the culture war is the last refuge of people who should really be denied all forms of refuge.

You would have to be a category-five idiot to cross the Brexit and Covid streams, so – inevitably – several government ministers did just that. A special mention for health secretary Matt Hancock, who completely wrongly said the approval had been so swift “because of Brexit”. A shoutout, too, to health minister Nadine Dorries, the imbecile’s imbecile, who claimed it was all “thanks to Brexit”. And a sarcastic handclap for the leader of the House of Commons, Jacob Rees-Mogg, who informed the house: “Germany, France and other European countries haven’t managed to do the same thing. We have and we’re leaving. Draw your own conclusions … as I’m sure the British public will.”

Mmmm. I want to say there’s a fine line between national pride and national boastfulness that’s almost designed to get you a slap … But there isn’t. There’s a very thick, very heavy line between these two ways of acting. It’s both incredible and wearyingly credible that we contrived to end up on the wrong side of it.

And so it was that senior public health officials have had to devote airtime this week to correcting ministerial lies, and lies of implication, instead of focusing entirely on their brilliant news. June Raine, head of the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority (MHRA), specifically took time to counter the health secretary’s claim that the MHRA had in any way benefited from Brexit. “We have been able to authorise the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law,” she stressed, “which exist until 1 January.” No 10 was duly obliged to accept this, despite what its winged idiots were saying. I hope someone in the new, touchy-feely Downing Street rang up every offending minster and screamed: “You’re only supposed to dead-cat BAD NEWS, you absolute braindead amateurs!”

Given the sheer number of people who now lie dead around the globe from this virus, turning it into some attempt at one-upmanship against other nations – even in bungled jest – feels bizarre and distasteful. I mean, what we’re talking about here is something pretty much everyone is yearning for. Turning round to other countries, particularly poorer ones, and doing the political equivalent of “na-nana-naa-nah!”, is kind of a dick move. Furthermore, tough times lie ahead. A government that lies even about good news is, by nature, very bad news indeed.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ication-brexit

I'm quite positive nowhere else in the world would an article like this come out in one of the biggest and most important papers. What are they feeding these people?? :crying:

Also, dayum. :clap:

Trollheart 12-04-2020 01:13 PM

****ing brilliant! Makes me want to become a Guardian reader. Almost.
:clap::laughing:

adidasss 12-04-2020 04:35 PM

The Guardian is arguably the best newspaper in the world, what's your problem with it?

Cuthbert 12-04-2020 05:11 PM

It's an awful paper lol.

adidasss 12-04-2020 05:35 PM

Explain yourself!

Marie Monday 12-04-2020 05:50 PM

Yeah I haven't read many guardian articles but while they're hardly objective (but what newspaper is) they seem decent enough, and sassy

Lucem Ferre 12-04-2020 05:58 PM

I don't even know how to read tbh.

adidasss 12-04-2020 06:03 PM

How can anyone not be a fan of this:

Black 3.0: Anish Kapoor and the art world’s pettiest, funniest dispute

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Name: Black 3.0.

Age: Six months old.

Appearance: Very black.

How black is very black? So black you would think: how much more black could it be?

Is the answer none? None more black? Not quite, but it claims to be “the blackest black acrylic paint” – as black as Vantablack.

Oh my God! What is Vantablack? Vantablack, created by the scientific research company Surrey NanoSystems, is one of the darkest materials ever created, absorbing 99.96% of the light that hits it.

What is it made of? It is actually a tiny forest of carbon nanotubes grown on a substrate, but there is a (slightly less black) spray paint version, Vantablack S-VIS, which is licensed exclusively to the artist Anish Kapoor.

You mean only he can use it? That is correct. A section of the artistic community was outraged when the deal happened. So incensed was the artist Stuart Semple that he formulated the pinkest pink ever and made it available to everyone – except Kapoor.

How can he stop him buying it? Online purchasers of the paint are required to make a legal declaration that “you are not Anish Kapoor, you are in no way affiliated to Anish Kapoor [and] you are not purchasing this item on behalf of Anish Kapoor or an associate of Anish Kapoor.”

Thorough. But Kapoor managed to get hold of some anyway.

Ooh, what did he do with it? He dipped his middle finger in it and posted the picture on Instagram.

I must say, I do like where this is going. Semple retaliated by moving into the super-black game. In 2017, he came up with a paint called Better Black, followed by Black 2.0 and now Black 3.0, which he says rivals Vantablack for blackness.

And absolutely anyone can buy his miracle paint? Almost anyone.

Will I need three guesses? No. Semple sells Black 3.0 at his newly opened London art shop, The Art Shop, from which Kapoor has been banned.

Who says the modern art world is boring and stupid? It is interesting and stupid! There is a full-time security detail posted on the door, armed with a picture of Kapoor. Semple is also asking customers to sign a declaration on entry “to ensure they will not share my creations with Kapoor or his associates”.

Maybe Kapoor could cover himself in Vantablack and sneak past. I think that is the logical next escalation.

Do say: “I see a red door and I want it painted Black 3.0.”

Don’t say:
“Sorry, did you walk into that door again? I should really put a sticker on it or something.”
:laughing:

They have loads of great writers, lots of humour and are normally a progressive left paper (they have some issues with TERFism but nobody's perfect), what's not to like?

Trollheart 12-04-2020 06:36 PM

Fluff/Cuthbert will have a better take on that than I would: he's English. I'm pretty sure it's seen as a mouthpiece of the government or something, not too sure, but it doesn't have a good rep in the UK. The phrase "you're just a Guardian reader" or "I bet you read the Guardian" is never said as a compliment

adidasss 12-04-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2148102)
Fluff/Cuthbert will have a better take on that than I would: he's English. I'm pretty sure it's seen as a mouthpiece of the government or something, not too sure, but it doesn't have a good rep in the UK. The phrase "you're just a Guardian reader" or "I bet you read the Guardian" is never said as a compliment

Wait, where are you from?

Also, I guess it depends which side of the political spectrum you lean on.

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2148102)
Fluff/Cuthbert will have a better take on that than I would: he's English. I'm pretty sure it's seen as a mouthpiece of the government or something, not too sure, but it doesn't have a good rep in the UK. The phrase "you're just a Guardian reader" or "I bet you read the Guardian" is never said as a compliment

That would just be stupid, because as far as I've read the Guardian they **** on the government

adidasss 12-05-2020 03:30 AM

Yeah they are leftist, the UK government has been right wing for some time now. I think the criticism comes mostly from the right. :/

Trollheart 12-05-2020 05:17 AM

Dunno. Like I say, Cuthbert is your man. I only know what I hear.

adidasss 12-05-2020 05:43 AM

Well if its only hearsay, then don't be shy in giving it a go. :) Unless you're some sort of right wing nutter, we have no place for those on musicbanter!! >: (

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 06:12 AM

Whoa everyone deserves a voice.
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new to the ins and outs of British culture, but I have a feeling it may be a class thing. Distaste for uppity intellectuals. Many of the Guardian readers are probably champagne socialists, but that doesn't make it a bad newspaper

Trollheart 12-05-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2148103)
Wait, where are you from?

Also, I guess it depends which side of the political spectrum you lean on.

Ireland.
Personally I'm not political really, but if I lean at all, I guess it would certainly be more to the left than the right. Depends how drunk I am really.

adidasss 12-05-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2148155)
Whoa everyone deserves a voice.
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new to the ins and outs of British culture, but I have a feeling it may be a class thing. Distaste for uppity intellectuals. Many of the Guardian readers are probably champagne socialists, but that doesn't make it a bad newspaper

What's wrong with champagne socialism??

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 08:14 AM

Seriously? It's obviously hypocritical

adidasss 12-05-2020 08:18 AM

Ok I'm not really familiar with the term but it seems to imply you can't have money and be a socialist, which I think is not correct.

No? Or does it mean something different?

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 08:49 AM

No, I'm pretty sure it's not just that; implies having a lot of money and living in a way which can't be reconciled with your socialist ideas. Where to draw the line at calling it hypocrisy isn't set in stone of course

Trollheart 12-05-2020 09:12 AM

I'm certainly not a right wing nut. I don't even have wings. Do you? Wow. I wish I could fly.

No, as I say I'm not overtly political, though if I lived in the USA I believe I would be a Democrat, while not really being familiar enough with either party to be able to say that really.

I think champagne socialism is like this: big party, lots of booze, fancy expensive dresses and jewels (and some of the women as bad!) and over dinner idiots who know no better talking about the world's problems while doing nothing to help. Kind of like (stupid metaphor but gets the idea across) bemoaning loudly the hunger in the world while stuffing your face. Or, to quote Pink Floyd, "Money - it's a crime. Share it fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie!"

adidasss 12-08-2020 08:36 PM

Don't mind me, I'll just keep posting amusing guardian articles here:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...vid-patriotism

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If you haven’t been paying attention to the pandemic – and, I’ll admit, I did start tuning out sometime around May – you would be forgiven for thinking it was all just a global ruse to launch Matt Hancock’s early morning TV career. Here he is, look, talking to Sky News about the doomed track-and-trace system, giggling in front of a faux-punk portrait of the Queen. Here he is, look, threatening Piers Morgan that he’ll take the vaccine on live television. And here he is – and yes, I’ve just watched it back again to make sure – here he is crying on Good Morning Britain, because someone called William Shakespeare took the vaccine, and that man was British. I grew up on a steady diet of Zig and Zag, so I’m fairly used to waking up to watch puppets being controlled by hands inserted into their darker regions, but I do think the 2020 reboot needs to work in the realism department.

Are we all right? Matt Hancock, who is pretending to cry on TV by holding a single finger to a dry eye and then laughing – I don’t want to “gatekeep crying” but that is simply not how it is done – clearly isn’t all right. With Tuesday morning’s rollout making household names of Coventry grandmother Margaret Keenan (the first person to take the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine outside of trials) and William Shakespeare (the first person named William Shakespeare to take the vaccine out of trials), it’s totally understandable that this news would bring with it a small, squirming feeling of hope. But then Hancock dabs his bone-dry eyes again and says something like, “There’s so much work that’s gone into this and it really, really … I’m just proud to be British”, and: ah. Are you? Really? Why?


I suppose it is hardwired into the British condition to react to any hardship big or small by doubling down on dumb patriotism, but I do really think it is worth saying that “Germany developed the vaccine, all we did was buy it” before we plan a too-many-Red-Arrows flyover.

There’s an old dunk the British like to perform on Americans about the second world war – “You took your time getting involved!”, men born in 1965 like to joke with men born in 1978, in bars and pubs across the free world – and it relates to some complex neuroses about valour, sacrifice and having had comparatively easy lives: I don’t know. Britain being the first country to roll out a Covid vaccine feels less of a gritty victory won in the trenches and on the beaches, and more like camping overnight for three days outside an Apple store to be the first to buy an iPhone: like yeah, you did it, but it’s very difficult to respect you for it.


Big week for patriotism though, isn’t it? Kate and William – who, if you haven’t got up to that bit in The Crown yet, are the good honest millennial-era royals we like, and not the workshy millennial-era ex-royals we hate – are doing a tour of Scotland and Wales, for some reason, but on a train this time, so it’s fun. Part of me was hoping they’d see the reality of British train travel and revolutionise it from the inside – Prince William, so affected by being shimmied out of his chair by two people with five people’s luggage who insist that they’ve booked his table, then sitting on a fold-down seat by the toilets and having his £9 cheese toastie interrupted by people who need a crap repeatedly asking him, “Is there anyone in there, mate?”, like what am I, the Toilet Master? – but then I found out they’re travelling via royal train.

So at no point in their tour will they have to confront the strange sewage-y smell of every single carpet on certain expensive train operators. Prince William will never have to idle for half an hour at Rhyl. At no point will Kate have to fumble through her bags to produce a millennial railcard which – both she and the inspector know full well – expired several years ago. This was an opportunity lost.

Still, you have to wonder what those encountering the royals in Vaccine Week are feeling. Existential apathy, I’m suspecting. On a week where the long-awaited vaccine is finally rolling out but things are still extremely bad, pandemic-wise, Kate and William are doing a frontline worker-thanking tour but not actually taking the vaccine with them, so it’s just two royals turning up, slightly flouting domestic Covid regulations, to politely say: hallo.

“Just you?” paramedics would be forgiven for thinking, as a flurry of photographers stop them working in the middle of the day to make them line up and keep their distance from two strangers. “No … no vaccine for us or anything?”

There’s just – sorry, I’m tearing up. There’s just so much work that’s gone into this pointless train tour of the UK, you know? And it really, really … I’m just proud to be British.

jwb 12-09-2020 03:11 AM

Damn british people suck

adidasss 12-09-2020 03:56 AM

They're the worst.

Trollheart 12-09-2020 09:24 AM

Apart from the Irish.

jwb 12-09-2020 10:32 AM

Which side are you from Trollheart? Protestant or Catholic?

Trollheart 12-09-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2149001)
Which side are you from Trollheart? Protestant or Catholic?

I'm from Dublin, man: Republic of Ireland and proud non-practicing, non-believing Roman Catholic.

jwb 12-09-2020 11:54 AM

Oh ok. My Irish side is catholic too. So is my italian side obviously.

What do you think about the IRA and all that **** that happened?

Trollheart 12-09-2020 02:50 PM

Yeah, you can never condone innocents and civilians being killed, but the IRA (which began as the IRB) was originally a form of resistance against English rule of course, and was supported by just about every Irish person. At that point, they only went for military targets and it was kind of a guerrila war. Later of course it became all about paid mercenaries and special interests, and the violence just escalated.

We were lucky here in the south; had few if any bombs (just one I remember when I was quite young, in O'Connell Street) but we were always hearing about it on the news. It's hard not to think of the "Brits" deserving it, as when we saw the likes of the miscarriages of justice such as the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four that led to the old saying "Irish as charged", but of course you had sympathy with the innocents killed in the bombing campaigns, and the daily violence people had to suffer.

Of course, I can't really speak about it with any sort of authority, as it was up there and we were down here. Heard about it almost every day on the news, but it seldom crossed the border. Sort of like, I guess, hearing about a bomb going off in Mexico, say, and being in New York.

My late aunt's uncle was in the original IRA, and she told some interesting stories about he and other IRA men escaping - and she'd point out the window - down the garden and over that wall, with the British soldiers after them. Fascinating stuff. But a world removed from the IRA of the seventies and eighties, who mostly were just out for themselves and didn't give a curse about a united Ireland.

Neapolitan 12-09-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2149019)
Oh ok. My Irish side is catholic too. So is my italian side obviously.

What do you think about the IRA and all that **** that happened?

When you have a spot of tea do you reach for: the scone, the biscotti or the hamentashen?

jwb 12-09-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2149051)
Yeah, you can never condone innocents and civilians being killed, but the IRA (which began as the IRB) was originally a form of resistance against English rule of course, and was supported by just about every Irish person. At that point, they only went for military targets and it was kind of a guerrila war. Later of course it became all about paid mercenaries and special interests, and the violence just escalated.

We were lucky here in the south; had few if any bombs (just one I remember when I was quite young, in O'Connell Street) but we were always hearing about it on the news. It's hard not to think of the "Brits" deserving it, as when we saw the likes of the miscarriages of justice such as the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four that led to the old saying "Irish as charged", but of course you had sympathy with the innocents killed in the bombing campaigns, and the daily violence people had to suffer.

Of course, I can't really speak about it with any sort of authority, as it was up there and we were down here. Heard about it almost every day on the news, but it seldom crossed the border. Sort of like, I guess, hearing about a bomb going off in Mexico, say, and being in New York.

My late aunt's uncle was in the original IRA, and she told some interesting stories about he and other IRA men escaping - and she'd point out the window - down the garden and over that wall, with the British soldiers after them. Fascinating stuff. But a world removed from the IRA of the seventies and eighties, who mostly were just out for themselves and didn't give a curse about a united Ireland.

interesting. You say just about every irishman supported the original IRA, but I thought that there were Protestant Irish who supported England?

Also, have you ever seen the series of peaky blinders?

jwb 12-09-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2149057)
When you have a spot of tea do you reach for: the scone, the biscotti or the hamentashen?

I don't have a spot of tea. I drink coffee.

Trollheart 12-10-2020 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2149085)
interesting. You say just about every irishman supported the original IRA, but I thought that there were Protestant Irish who supported England?

Also, have you ever seen the series of peaky blinders?

Okay well here's the deal: right or wrong, we generally didn't consider Protestants (Proddies) Irishmen. They were the blow-ins, the johnny-come-latelies, the almost-as-English-as-the-English-themselves. So when I say every Irishman I don't include them. Plus, as I noted, I'm talking about the South, the Republic, and you got very few Proddies down here. The Republic was (perhaps obviously) more or less all republican, and certainly where I lived, and live now, it was a very Republican area. Now, I assume you realise that when I say Republican, I'm talking about a different Republican then your US ones. Yours is a party, ours is too but more an ideal: the reunification of all 32 counties under one Republic.

So almost everyone in the South was, overtly or at least tentatively, a Republican. You'd see things like "Up the RA" (short for IRA - yeah, only the Irish could need to shorten a three-letter word!) "Brits Out" and "Provos Rule", but then it's a lot easier to support a group or faction when you're not faced with their atrocities on a regular basis. Still, Ireland wanted its 6 counties back and it's always been a bone of contention that the Brits were up there. Also, we hated Thatcher (who didn't?) so that added to it. The internment camps, H-Block, The Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six all went to intensify that innate hatred of the British, which had been ingrained in us from school, given that the English had occupied and oppressed Ireland for 700 years.

Edt: Yes I saw Peaky Blinders. Did not like it personally. Might consider going back and trying it again. If you're looking for authentic though The Rising and The Treaty are good programmes that capture the feeling in pre-1916 Ireland.

adidasss 12-10-2020 07:10 AM

Have you seen Derry girls?? It's brilliant! I have to say, if anyone can match the British wit, it's the Oyresh! :laughing:

Trollheart 12-10-2020 09:06 AM

Yes I have, and I agree it's excellent.

jwb 12-10-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2149098)
Okay well here's the deal: right or wrong, we generally didn't consider Protestants (Proddies) Irishmen. They were the blow-ins, the johnny-come-latelies, the almost-as-English-as-the-English-themselves. So when I say every Irishman I don't include them. Plus, as I noted, I'm talking about the South, the Republic, and you got very few Proddies down here. The Republic was (perhaps obviously) more or less all republican, and certainly where I lived, and live now, it was a very Republican area. Now, I assume you realise that when I say Republican, I'm talking about a different Republican then your US ones. Yours is a party, ours is too but more an ideal: the reunification of all 32 counties under one Republic.

So almost everyone in the South was, overtly or at least tentatively, a Republican. You'd see things like "Up the RA" (short for IRA - yeah, only the Irish could need to shorten a three-letter word!) "Brits Out" and "Provos Rule", but then it's a lot easier to support a group or faction when you're not faced with their atrocities on a regular basis. Still, Ireland wanted its 6 counties back and it's always been a bone of contention that the Brits were up there. Also, we hated Thatcher (who didn't?) so that added to it. The internment camps, H-Block, The Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six all went to intensify that innate hatred of the British, which had been ingrained in us from school, given that the English had occupied and oppressed Ireland for 700 years.

Edt: Yes I saw Peaky Blinders. Did not like it personally. Might consider going back and trying it again. If you're looking for authentic though The Rising and The Treaty are good programmes that capture the feeling in pre-1916 Ireland.

heh... I trimmed off peaky after the beginning of s2. When they acted like he was gonna die and the cop saved him... I'm like I know for a fact you're not gonna kill off your main character this early. Didn't even kill off that snitch broad at the end of season 1. So how the hell am I supposed to suspend disbelief? I liked the setting though.

So I ditched Peaky Blinders and started rewatching The Sopranos yet again instead.

Neapolitan 12-10-2020 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2149086)
I don't have a spot of tea. I drink coffee.

OK then, when you have your "coffee" do you reach for: scone, biscotti or hamentashen?

Trollheart 12-11-2020 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2149127)
heh... I trimmed off peaky after the beginning of s2. When they acted like he was gonna die and the cop saved him... I'm like I know for a fact you're not gonna kill off your main character this early. Didn't even kill off that snitch broad at the end of season 1. So how the hell am I supposed to suspend disbelief? I liked the setting though.

So I ditched Peaky Blinders and started rewatching The Sopranos yet again instead.

I assume you've seen Sons of Anarchy? And if you're into gangsters (and have Italian blood) try Gomorrah, not to mention Gangs of London.


jwb 12-11-2020 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2149199)
OK then, when you have your "coffee" do you reach for: scone, biscotti or hamentashen?

I reach for your mom's ****

jwb 12-11-2020 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2149210)
I assume you've seen Sons of Anarchy? And if you're into gangsters (and have Italian blood) try Gomorrah, not to mention Gangs of London.


seen part of SoA. Couple seasons. Never finished it.

Nobody even comes close to the sopranos imo


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