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Marie Monday 12-05-2020 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2148102)
Fluff/Cuthbert will have a better take on that than I would: he's English. I'm pretty sure it's seen as a mouthpiece of the government or something, not too sure, but it doesn't have a good rep in the UK. The phrase "you're just a Guardian reader" or "I bet you read the Guardian" is never said as a compliment
That would just be stupid, because as far as I've read the Guardian they **** on the government

adidasss 12-05-2020 03:30 AM
Yeah they are leftist, the UK government has been right wing for some time now. I think the criticism comes mostly from the right. :/

Trollheart 12-05-2020 05:17 AM
Dunno. Like I say, Cuthbert is your man. I only know what I hear.

adidasss 12-05-2020 05:43 AM
Well if its only hearsay, then don't be shy in giving it a go. :) Unless you're some sort of right wing nutter, we have no place for those on musicbanter!! >: (

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 06:12 AM
Whoa everyone deserves a voice.
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new to the ins and outs of British culture, but I have a feeling it may be a class thing. Distaste for uppity intellectuals. Many of the Guardian readers are probably champagne socialists, but that doesn't make it a bad newspaper

Trollheart 12-05-2020 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2148103)
Wait, where are you from?

Also, I guess it depends which side of the political spectrum you lean on.
Ireland.
Personally I'm not political really, but if I lean at all, I guess it would certainly be more to the left than the right. Depends how drunk I am really.

adidasss 12-05-2020 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2148155)
Whoa everyone deserves a voice.
Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new to the ins and outs of British culture, but I have a feeling it may be a class thing. Distaste for uppity intellectuals. Many of the Guardian readers are probably champagne socialists, but that doesn't make it a bad newspaper
What's wrong with champagne socialism??

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 08:14 AM
Seriously? It's obviously hypocritical

adidasss 12-05-2020 08:18 AM
Ok I'm not really familiar with the term but it seems to imply you can't have money and be a socialist, which I think is not correct.

No? Or does it mean something different?

Marie Monday 12-05-2020 08:49 AM
No, I'm pretty sure it's not just that; implies having a lot of money and living in a way which can't be reconciled with your socialist ideas. Where to draw the line at calling it hypocrisy isn't set in stone of course


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