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adidasss 11-11-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2144033)
Don't waste your time tbh. He's too obsessed with women fulfilling his desires to be able to have a conversation involving them doing literally anything but ****ing him. The "antipuritanical" nonsense is just a way to divert the conversation away from his patriarchal hangups.

Yep, starting to get it.

OccultHawk 11-11-2020 07:52 PM

Some things are simple. People think because they enjoy sex they’re pro-sex. No. If you’re pro-sex you don’t get upset about nude representations of the body. If you do your excuses are bull**** and a thousand words don’t change the truth. Same with almost every subject discussed here. **** always gets convoluted in bull**** justifications.

If I wasn’t ok with the statue I’d admit I wasn’t pro-sex but no one else is ever capable of doing that. It’s always wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

OccultHawk 11-11-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2144036)
Yep, starting to get it.

Totally love to **** women. 100% guilty.

Frownland 11-11-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2144038)
Some things are simple. People think because they enjoy sex they’re pro-sex. No. If you’re pro-sex you don’t get upset about nude representations of the body. If you do your excuses are bull**** and a thousand words don’t change the truth. Same with almost every subject discussed here. **** always gets convoluted in bull**** justifications.

If I wasn’t ok with the statue I’d admit I wasn’t pro-sex but no one else is ever capable of doing that. It’s always wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

I hope she sees this bro

Neapolitan 11-11-2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2143916)
Mary Wollstonecraft was an 18th century writer, usually credited as "the mother of feminism". This rather forgotten figure is in the news today because a monument to her has just been unveiled in a London park:-

https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/p..._630/image.jpg


Know what really burns me up about that picture? Somebody put graffiti on the Sycamore tree.
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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2143916)
So this statue has opened up a debate about how (and how often) women are memorialised in public places. That's why I thought it might be worth a thread, and a poll. Any comments?

Full CNN story: https://edition.cnn.com/style/articl...cli/index.html

I like more classical styles in art and sculpture. It looks like someone cared enough to put a face mask on Jane. What I like about the statue is how Jane Austen is pressing a book close to her heart - such sweet sentiment.
https://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk...e=article-full

Lisnaholic 11-11-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2144027)
I think what you fail to take into account is the millennia of objectification of women that lead to this. There's no problem with nudity per se, the problem is that for a very long time, women were (and continue to be) judged primarily based on their looks, and treated essentially as sexual objects for the gratification of men. It wasn't until feminism emerged that this started to change. Celebrating a feminist by again putting the emphasis on the female form seems diametrically opposite of what feminism would like to achieve. :/

X2 adidass. That is a very clear explanation.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2144028)
Do you really think there’s any possible way I haven’t heard that **** a million ****ing times?

Pussy is good.

To me, this looks true, but not relevent.

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... that puritanical the body is evil lust is evil sex is bad bull****.
That's not what adidasss, or me, or anyone in this thread is saying.

OccultHawk 11-12-2020 01:10 AM

It’s what it means by default you ****ing Tipper Gores

adidasss 11-12-2020 01:39 AM

Nope. And it doesn't become this because you say so multiple times. Re-read what we've said please.

OccultHawk 11-12-2020 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2144033)
Don't waste your time tbh. He's too obsessed with women fulfilling his desires to be able to have a conversation involving them doing literally anything but ****ing him. The "antipuritanical" nonsense is just a way to divert the conversation away from his patriarchal hangups.

You know this is the most telling sex is shameful post yet.

OccultHawk 11-12-2020 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2144065)
Nope. And it doesn't become this because you say so multiple times. Re-read what we've said please.

I get it. Every single objection is about the nudity. Y’all are uptight and not down with the human body and try to justify your anti-sex message with fake feminism.


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