M Wollstonecraft: Statues of Women

OccultHawk · 11-11-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

it would also depict you as having a gigantic penis of course

ftfy

Lisnaholic · 11-11-2020, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

The "blob" looks like a mass of people struggling to escape from a membrane with the woman (a barbie, apparently) finally being able to escape at the top, which is a good representation of Wollenstonecraft's legacy of helping women escape oppression and achieve equal rights imo. Could've been done better but I think that the artist's intentions were sound.

Perhaps I got a little swept away by my own argument and preferred to ignore this inconvenient but valid point. Can't you put your interpretation into a spoiler or something?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'd just like to point out that part of your argument defending a feminist's modesty is essentially just stereotyping women as being monolithically modest.

I'm not sure about that Batlord, any more than any opinion that includes the word "men" or "women" is stereotyping them monolithically. People make generalisations all the time, usually with the tacit understanding that there will always be exceptions.
( Although not all people, of course; I wouldn't like to stereotype the human race as being monolithically generalisers.)

OccultHawk · 11-11-2020, 03:51 PM

lol @ people claiming to be pro-woman but objecting to pussy

Lisnaholic · 11-11-2020, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

lol @ people claiming to be pro-woman but objecting to pussy

Are there any people like that in this thread?
My position, for instance, is that the statue isn't an appropriate memorial for MW

OccultHawk · 11-11-2020, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Are there any people like that in this thread?
My position, for instance, is that the statue isn't an appropriate memorial for MW

Because it’s a nude representation.

Court is adjourned

adidasss · 11-11-2020, 07:50 PM

I think what you fail to take into account is the millennia of objectification of women that lead to this. There's no problem with nudity per se, the problem is that for a very long time, women were (and continue to be) judged primarily based on their looks, and treated essentially as sexual objects for the gratification of men. It wasn't until feminism emerged that this started to change. Celebrating a feminist by again putting the emphasis on the female form seems diametrically opposite of what feminism would like to achieve. :/

OccultHawk · 11-11-2020, 07:58 PM

Do you really think there’s any possible way I haven’t heard that **** a million ****ing times?

Pussy is good. I don’t give a **** if it’s you or billy graham. **** that puritanical the body is evil lust is evil sex is bad bull****.

Not ****ing hearing it or your generic gender studies justification for it.

**Frownland** · 11-11-2020, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I think what you fail to take into account is the millennia of objectification of women that lead to this. There's no problem with nudity per se, the problem is that for a very long time, women were (and continue to be) judged primarily based on their looks, and treated essentially as sexual objects for the gratification of men. It wasn't until feminism emerged that this started to change. Celebrating a feminist by again putting the emphasis on the female form seems diametrically opposite of what feminism would like to achieve. :/

Don't waste your time tbh. He's too obsessed with women fulfilling his desires to be able to have a conversation involving them doing literally anything but ****ing him. The "antipuritanical" nonsense is just a way to divert the conversation away from his patriarchal hangups.

OccultHawk · 11-11-2020, 08:25 PM

Leave it in suburbia

**Frownland** · 11-11-2020, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Leave it in suburbia

Is that where you picked up branding your puritanical demands for female subservience as feminism to avoid criticism?

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