Music & Politics. (punk, rock, concert, bands, songs)

right-track · 08-22-2005, 07:35 AM

Do you think musicians should be political, or do you think that they should stick to music and leave the politics to the politicians?

08-22-2005, 07:43 AM

It depends on the motivations I think. For me, Rage Against the Machine being political is good because they are just saying what they think whereas a band such as Greenday (please don't lynch me) trying to be political is bad because they are doing it because it is popular/cool to do. I think that those who generally have very political songs for the right pupose are good and I have no problem with them.

Josephine · 08-22-2005, 08:43 AM

I agree with pastor.
I think there're only two ways: Being political - or not. If a band decides to be political, they shud get involved with it properly.
I hate all those bands pretending to be political cuz it's so "punk" (what means "en vogue" for the moment). It's NOT enough to produce and cry out half-thought out, banal arguments like "We kinda don't like Bush". If you don't have ANY idea, it's quite better to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I forgot... who said that: "We're not the Dixie Chicks. We're not going to say: We kinda don't like Bush!..."

phoenixflames · 08-22-2005, 08:49 AM

I personally don't care for bands getting involved with politics. I hate politics so much as it is, I don't want to have to hear bands talk about it too. It does seem to be quite the popular thing to do now.

adidasss · 08-22-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pastor of muppets

whereas a band such as Greenday (please don't lynch me) trying to be political is bad because they are doing it because it is popular/cool to do. .

oh god!!...and you know this how?! you're friends with them and they told you?....they are just expressing their opinion of the current political situation, they are obviously intrigued by it and found inspiration from it......for god's sake, stop dissing green day people! just because they changed their sound and they're not "punk" anymore doesn't mean they're not making good music, personally i think american idiot is their best album.....

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 08-22-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

oh god!!...and you know this how?! you're friends with them and they told you?....they are just expressing their opinion of the current political situation, they are obviously intrigued by it and found inspiration from it......for god's sake, stop dissing green day people! just because they changed their sound and they're not "punk" anymore doesn't mean they're not making good music, personally i think american idiot is their best album.....

Personally, I think American Idiot sucks ass. And personally, I also think that they've just jumped on the whole "I HATE BUSH AND ANARCHY ROX MY SOX" thang. How else are they selling more records? To me (and many many others) they're not making better music, all else thats changed is that he now wears eyeliner and sings more about politics.

But anyway, this is NOT another effing Green Day thread.

IamAlejo · 08-22-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

oh god!!...and you know this how?! you're friends with them and they told you?....they are just expressing their opinion of the current political situation, they are obviously intrigued by it and found inspiration from it......for god's sake, stop dissing green day people! just because they changed their sound and they're not "punk" anymore doesn't mean they're not making good music, personally i think american idiot is their best album.....

I've got $100 Billy Joel couldn't tell me the last 5 American Presidents in order. Care to take that bet?

adidasss · 08-23-2005, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

I've got $100 Billy Joel couldn't tell me the last 5 American Presidents in order. Care to take that bet?

noone's that stupid, even i can do that.....and i'm not even american....

08-23-2005, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

oh god!!...and you know this how?! you're friends with them and they told you?....they are just expressing their opinion of the current political situation, they are obviously intrigued by it and found inspiration from it......for god's sake, stop dissing green day people! just because they changed their sound and they're not "punk" anymore doesn't mean they're not making good music, personally i think american idiot is their best album.....

i said "please dont lynch me".....

but anyway, i think american idiot is alright, and i own it (*shock* *horror*) i was just using it as an example of bands that do that sort of thing... also, its only my opinion, and i fully understand that you dont agree with it, ok? lets all be friends

adidasss · 08-23-2005, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pastor of muppets

i said "please dont lynch me".....

but anyway, i think american idiot is alright, and i own it (*shock* *horror*) i was just using it as an example of bands that do that sort of thing... also, its only my opinion, and i fully understand that you dont agree with it, ok? lets all be friends

i'm sorry if i lashed out at you, but when someone says the same thing over and over again, i start to get annoyed, 99% of the people here are convinced they went "political" because it's trendy and i don't see why an artist can't change the style and theme of his lyrics......and this whole, "i hate green day" and "only kiddies listen to green day and think they're "punk" bullshit is really getting on my nerves....if you don't like the music, just say so, don't diss someone just because they're really popular right now and dissing them makes you so ultra cool and punk, cuz you're all "against the mainstream"....

08-22-2005, 07:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
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08-22-2005, 08:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
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08-22-2005, 08:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
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08-22-2005, 07:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
pastor of muppets Guest Posts: n/a	It depends on the motivations I think. For me, Rage Against the Machine being political is good because they are just saying what they think whereas a band such as Greenday (please don't lynch me) trying to be political is bad because they are doing it because it is popular/cool to do. I think that those who generally have very political songs for the right pupose are good and I have no problem with them.