I've got $100 Billy Joel couldn't tell me the last 5 American Presidents in order. Care to take that bet?

I don`t mind people writing their political opinions in lyrics.

I do however have a problem with multi millionaire rock stars preaching to me about poverty

I think bands should only deal in politics if their music suits it... and obviously understand it.

System of a down for example. The Robin hoods of political critics. Take anti peace, people killing, power hungry decisions and tear them to shreads. Why? Because their music damn well suits it. Hard, brutal and clever, these guys deal with issues that are just that in real life...like war "why dont presidents fight the war why do they send the poor". It is a powerful moral issue that powerhouse music can deal with.

Rage Against The Machine. Their name sez it all. And again, their music suits it. Argumentative, angry, and clever. These guys have the right sound to make music based on politics. They have dark brooding music while Zach winds up his main point for the song, then all hell breaks loose when he screams the accusation. Not all of rages music is good but it is cleverly written and isn't your joe average sneer at presidents or whatever.

I'm no SOAD expert, but that sounds pretty stupid if that's really their message.

Strong political messages aren't just mindlessly bashing the president and the government.

yer thats what i was trying to say, im not very good at explaining things however. I didnt mean it had everything to do with the president

....I know what im talking about:banghead: stupid self explanation skills.

I was just trying to say their music suits the anger that they sometime express towards politics and government made decisions.

ahh never mix goverment with music unless its about overthrowing it

i said "please dont lynch me".....

but anyway, i think american idiot is alright, and i own it (*shock* *horror*) i was just using it as an example of bands that do that sort of thing... also, its only my opinion, and i fully understand that you dont agree with it, ok? lets all be friends :)

Don't wanna be an American idiot.
Don't want a nation under the new media.
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind**** America.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
Well that's enough to argue.

Well maybe I'm the ***got America.
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
Well that's enough to argue.

Don't wanna be an American idiot.
One nation controlled by the media.
Information nation of hysteria.
It's going out to idiot America.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.

if you're saying that this is vague then RATM lyrics made no sense whatsoever

noone's that stupid, even i can do that.....and i'm not even american....