Originally Posted by jwb

oh I don't disagree it's technically doable but practicably speaking... In order to shut the economy down.. you're talking about a consistent ubi check not just a stimulus every now and then. That's not an avenue the politicians in america will go down. They don't wanna give people the taste of free money. Even Bernie sanders and AOC probably wouldn't be willing to introduce that sorta UBI. So we're talking a complete pipe dream. In the meantime... We rely on the economy to not collapse.

And@OH saying it wouldn't happen... It collapsed in 2008 when everything seemed to be going good just based on some bad investments. Even worse in 1929. You're telling me if we closed down most businesses and just waited for the virus to pass you don't think that could cause a similar type of depression?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I mean at that point shouldn't you just support acclerationism to destabilize the people holding their foot on your neck?

Originally Posted by jwb

gimme one example where accelerationism ever worked

There's an old saying in programming... Garbage in, garbage out

If you let a society crumble to the point where you can seize power then the foundations on which you build your new society will be unfit for the utopian vision you have in mind. See: USSR, China, etc

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.