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~~jwb~~ · 01-02-2021, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You claim socialists are giving up when they don't seize power or vote in the left or join communes but aren't you just giving up by allowing the rich to treat you like a slave while you pretend it isn't even happening? Aren't you just a complete bitchass coward letting some middle management loser dictate your life?

... Cite what you're referring to cause I never think I said socialists are giving up by not living in communes. I simply asked why you prefer working at Burger King to living in a commune.

I've accused you personally of giving up at any attempt to improve your life but that has nothing to do with socialism. And I'm not opposed to it I'm just saying to me, waiting around for it is a lost cause. I have no faith that we're headed in that direction anytime soon, and my clock is ticking. I'm 33. Let someone else save the world. **** the world. I'm out for me & mine.

The Batlord · 01-02-2021, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

... Cite what you're referring to cause I never think I said socialists are giving up by not living in communes. I simply asked why you prefer working at Burger King to living in a commune.

I've accused you personally of giving up at any attempt to improve your life but that has nothing to do with socialism. And I'm not opposed to it I'm just saying to me, waiting around for it is a lost cause. I have no faith that we're headed in that direction anytime soon, and my clock is ticking. I'm 33. Let someone else save the world. **** the world. I'm out for me & mine.

So you've given up and have no place criticizing anyone else cause you're committed to slavery. I mean you just admitted to everything I said basically but don't want to deal with it cause you want to be a real man and not a drone

**Frownland** · 01-02-2021, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ando here

Kid has a point. vvvv

He forgot to mention how prolonging the pandemic eliminates the competition of smaller businesses who can't afford closure/adapting their model/decline in business so that megacorporations can pick up the pieces to better monopolize industries and create job scarcity to justify driving down wages.

OccultHawk · 01-02-2021, 08:49 PM

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2008

That’s supposed to concern me? **** 2008. Nothing changed for the poor or the rich. Some bougie ****s lost big houses. Dafuq I care?

~~jwb~~ · 01-02-2021, 08:49 PM

.... Given up what? The day you actually wanna start the revolution, gimme a call and I'll pitch in. Till then imma get paid.

The Batlord · 01-02-2021, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

oh I don't disagree it's technically doable but practicably speaking... In order to shut the economy down.. you're talking about a consistent ubi check not just a stimulus every now and then. That's not an avenue the politicians in america will go down. They don't wanna give people the taste of free money. Even Bernie sanders and AOC probably wouldn't be willing to introduce that sorta UBI. So we're talking a complete pipe dream. In the meantime... We rely on the economy to not collapse.

And@OH saying it wouldn't happen... It collapsed in 2008 when everything seemed to be going good just based on some bad investments. Even worse in 1929. You're telling me if we closed down most businesses and just waited for the virus to pass you don't think that could cause a similar type of depression?

I mean at that point shouldn't you just support acclerationism to destabilize the people holding their foot on your neck?

~~jwb~~ · 01-02-2021, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s supposed to concern me? **** 2008. Nothing changed for the poor or the rich. Some bougie ****s lost big houses. Dafuq I care?

yeah cause no poor people suffered from the recession

Not like it was them that were losing the houses in the first place. Them who's pensions got gutted. Them who couldn't find work. Only rich people suffered. They suffered so much that the govt gave them massive severance packages.

OccultHawk · 01-02-2021, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He forgot to mention how prolonging the pandemic eliminates the competition of smaller businesses who can't afford closure/adapting their model/decline in business so that megacorporations can pick up the pieces to better monopolize industries and create job scarcity to justify driving down wages.

The more monopolized they are the less targets need to be hit.

OccultHawk · 01-02-2021, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

yeah cause no poor people suffered from the recession

Not like it was them that were losing the houses in the first place. Them who's pensions got gutted. Them who couldn't find work. Only rich people suffered. They suffered so much that the govt gave them massive severance packages.

They lost those pensions because they refused to take up arms.

~~jwb~~ · 01-02-2021, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I mean at that point shouldn't you just support acclerationism to destabilize the people holding their foot on your neck?

gimme one example where accelerationism ever worked

There's an old saying in programming... Garbage in, garbage out

If you let a society crumble to the point where you can seize power then the foundations on which you build your new society will be unfit for the utopian vision you have in mind. See: USSR, China, etc

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	.... Given up what? The day you actually wanna start the revolution, gimme a call and I'll pitch in. Till then imma get paid.