Coronavirus: COVID-19

**Exo** · 07-24-2020, 02:03 PM

Yo, innocent question here because I've really taken a step back from the news coverage/numbers for mental health reasons over the last month...

Are deaths down?

I see all the new cases in Florida, Arizona, Texas, ect...

How many of those are turning into deaths? Are we getting better at treating this? You'd think half of Florida would be a corpse by now. Are they not reporting the deaths? Just seemed like in the beginning the northeast was recording hundreds of deaths a day. Doesn't seem to be the case right now or am I missing something?

OccultHawk · 07-24-2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Yo, innocent question here because I've really taken a step back from the news coverage/numbers for mental health reasons over the last month...

Are deaths down?

I see all the new cases in Florida, Arizona, Texas, ect...

How many of those are turning into deaths? Are we getting better at treating this? You'd think half of Florida would be a corpse by now. Are they not reporting the deaths? Just seemed like in the beginning the northeast was recording hundreds of deaths a day. Doesn't seem to be the case right now or am I missing something?

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hospitalizations are soaring, and more than 1,100 new coronavirus deaths were reported across the United States on Wednesday, marking the first time since May 29 that the daily count exceeded that number

Washington Post

However daily death tolls peaked at about 2,700.
(US numbers)

Assuming the numbers are good like frown says

I also saw a stat that the number of deaths overall this year by any cause are way up past what the corona numbers indicate but we don’t know how these people died. I’ll have to search for that article if you care.

**Exo** · 07-24-2020, 02:35 PM

Yeah, looks like I was just actively missing the death reports. I guess I'll go back to being angry and sad now.

OccultHawk · 07-24-2020, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Yeah, looks like I was just actively missing the death reports. I guess I'll go back to being angry and sad now.

A dude in Newark or Brooklyn is more likely to die in a hospital than Appalachian folk - I figure

Medical approaches may have improved since those terrible days in NYC.

**Frownland** · 07-24-2020, 03:12 PM

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Scary sh*t. And people don't f*cking wear masks still. Incredible.

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Originally Posted by Exo

Yeah, looks like I was just actively missing the death reports. I guess I'll go back to being angry and sad now.

I know man. It's ****ing disheartening. Most of my friends are/were stoners and that group has an overlap with easily manipulated conspiratorial retards so I've had several conversations breaking down the science for people without endorsing its policy implications only to wind up with a brick-bruised forehead and some begrudging luck with only one of them. I've surprised myself with my patience but the audacity of these idiots dogmatically thinking that their unsourced gut reaction (which is often just parroted anti-science propaganda that they've internalized) outweighs scientific research before they even see what the science says just makes me want to scream. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt at first but it's the same half true/outright false/fallacial talking points every time. It's incited me to start some essays on American post truth that are looking to be book length by the time I'm finished if I keep up this pissed off momentum.

I wish I had tips for how to not be angry and sad about this **** but I've had no luck myself. Remember that for every mouthbreathing plague denier there's a frownland, a hawk, a rostasi, etc with you recognizing how harmfully stupid that mouthbreather is, so it's not entirely hopeless.

rostasi · 07-24-2020, 03:16 PM

FDA Updates on Hand Sanitizers with Methanol

Just discovered that one brand I have here was on the list.
I've only used it three times - and that was only recently, this week,
but it's going in the trash.

OccultHawk · 07-24-2020, 03:20 PM

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FDA Updates on Hand Sanitizers with Methanol

Just discovered that one brand I have here was on the list.
I've only used it three times - and that was only recently, this week,
but it's going in the trash.

Yeah

Has anyone else noticed how much more soap they’re going through?

rostasi · 07-24-2020, 03:40 PM

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Yeah

Has anyone else noticed how much more soap they’re going through?

Actually, I said "trash", but what I meant was the chemical recycler down the street.

About soap: like toilet paper, we buy in bulk on some things,
so soap, for instance, has never been a problem. There's a kind
of soap that I get in 10 or 12 packs - each a different "essence"
which I like and is also not from a big name company. One thing
I am doing is that when I clean off the countertops, I use soap on
a small sponge and then do a very light rinse so that it leaves a thin
layer of unseen soap on the counter. Since I rarely put food directly on
the countertop, it's not a problem - same thing when washing hands:
I don't rinse my hands/arms completely - just a bit of a film is left.

**Exo** · 07-24-2020, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I know man. It's ****ing disheartening. Most of my friends are/were stoners and that group has an overlap with easily manipulated conspiratorial retards so I've had several conversations breaking down the science for people without endorsing how those inform policy only to wind up with a brick-bruised forehead and some begrudging luck with only one of them. I've surprised myself with my patience but the audacity of these idiots dogmatically thinking that their unsourced gut reaction (which is often just parroted anti-science propaganda that they've internalized) outweighs scientific research before they even see what the science says just makes me want to scream. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt at first but it's the same half true/outright false/fallacial talking points every time. It's incited me to start some essays on American post truth that are looking to be book length by the time I'm finished if I keep up this pissed off momentum.

I wish I had tips for how to not be angry and sad about this **** but I've had no luck myself. Remember that for every mouthbreathing plague denier there's a frownland, a hawk, a rostasi, etc with you recognizing how harmfully stupid that mouthbreather is, so it's not entirely hopeless.

Luckily I live in an area that is predominately able minded when dealing with this although there are obviously exceptions. There's a restaurant downtown that is breaking state mandate by having indoor dining every night and I f*cking hate them so much I wanna throw a brick through their window.

Then I remember that I'm going through a pretty serious depression/anxiety spell over the last few weeks with no end in sight so I just take a CBD and put some jazz on.

**Frownland** · 07-24-2020, 03:39 PM

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Frown

A big part of that problem is that people don’t read. Not just news but I swear there’s a connection there to people who simply don’t read books. Even if the subject is unrelated and it would be hard for to establish a causal relationship but people never read ****ing books.

I agree that this is part of it along with a general lack of critical thinking/science/logic education, but I think that a bigger issue is information sources. The first time that some people heard of the coronavirus was through their friend opining that they thought that a preventative law was bull****, and they learned of the law through a meme's representation of the media's representation of a public official's representation of their cabinet/campaign team/lobbyist's representation of the science. So by the time they hear the science it's been tarnished by a slew of legitimate and perceived biases/agendas/influences and most people don't take the time to verify their first impression.

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Originally Posted by Exo

Luckily I live in an area that is predominately able minded when dealing with this although there are obviously exceptions. There's a restaurant downtown that is breaking state mandate by having indoor dining every night and I f*cking hate them so much I wanna throw a brick through their window.

Then I remember that I'm going through a pretty serious depression/anxiety spell over the last few weeks with no end in sight so I just take a CBD and put some jazz on.

Ja there's a lot of people being careful in California but the entitled idiots are coming out of the woodwork after doing the bare minimum for a week.

Hope you feel better man.

07-24-2020, 02:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	Yo, innocent question here because I've really taken a step back from the news coverage/numbers for mental health reasons over the last month... Are deaths down? I see all the new cases in Florida, Arizona, Texas, ect... How many of those are turning into deaths? Are we getting better at treating this? You'd think half of Florida would be a corpse by now. Are they not reporting the deaths? Just seemed like in the beginning the northeast was recording hundreds of deaths a day. Doesn't seem to be the case right now or am I missing something? __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

07-24-2020, 02:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	Yeah, looks like I was just actively missing the death reports. I guess I'll go back to being angry and sad now. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

07-24-2020, 03:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,013	FDA Updates on Hand Sanitizers with Methanol Just discovered that one brand I have here was on the list. I've only used it three times - and that was only recently, this week, but it's going in the trash.