Coronavirus: COVID-19

The Batlord · 02-08-2021, 09:18 PM

Shambling corpses don't make decisions to massacre hundreds of thousands of people. America did. You wanna accuse China? You gotta accuse America too or you really are a fascist.

Anteater · 02-08-2021, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Shambling corpses don't make decisions to massacre hundreds of thousands of people. America did. You wanna accuse China? You gotta accuse America too or you really are a fascist.

America is paying the price for every bad decision they've made in the last four years, including the coroanvrius deaths as a result of multiple bad decisions (including a few that echo China's). Trump didn't lose the election in a vacuum - he was rejected by all kinds of voting bases based on poor performance. He ****ed up and there were consequences for it. And in regards to America itself, you see its vital international relationships are in tatters and the economy is just one or two bad calls away from being completely sunk. You wanted to stick it to America? It's already playing out in front of your eyes. Biden is plugging holes but the long-term damage is already done.

China, on the other hand, isn't going to get their comeuppance without a ****load of sanctions from multiple countries who all suffered deaths as a result of the initial outbreak. So the first step in that is agreeing with me that they deserve their fair share of the blame, which is right around 100%.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2021, 11:56 PM

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Assuming you believe the official records, the Chinese government noted the first coronavirus case on November 17th, and from that point onward they spent weeks and weeks trying to squash anyone who wanted to tell the rest of the world about it. So no, if anything, we should be pointing the finger at them a lot more.

... the first case. that doesn't tell you anything about the scale of the pandemic.

people thought sars would be a pandemic. bird flu. etc. That's why the very lab that you think leaked the virus exists in Wuhan. Because these sorts of outbreaks have been an ongiong thing in the region for a while now. You never actually know when the big one is gonna hit.

Yeah china did some shady **** early on because they were trying not to cause a panic and take too much of an economic hit during the trade war. But there's no reason to think they knew how bad this thing would be as early as November. By february they were well aware and were taking it serious. The whole world was well aware by March and yet we still failed to act accordingly in this country and in many others. China succesfiully combatted the virus in their country way more efficiently than we did here. So point the finger all you want but the fact is we are in no place to really talk any sorta **** about how another country managed this pandemic given what an utter failure our response was and stilll is. it's a year later and we STILL don't have our **** together.

The Batlord · 02-09-2021, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

America is paying the price for every bad decision they've made in the last four years, including the coroanvrius deaths as a result of multiple bad decisions (including a few that echo China's). Trump didn't lose the election in a vacuum - he was rejected by all kinds of voting bases based on poor performance. He ****ed up and there were consequences for it. And in regards to America itself, you see its vital international relationships are in tatters and the economy is just one or two bad calls away from being completely sunk. You wanted to stick it to America? It's already playing out in front of your eyes. Biden is plugging holes but the long-term damage is already done.

China, on the other hand, isn't going to get their comeuppance without a ****load of sanctions from multiple countries who all suffered deaths as a result of the initial outbreak. So the first step in that is agreeing with me that they deserve their fair share of the blame, which is right around 100%.

You think that's enough?! That **** was murder. I want him shot.

Trollheart · 02-09-2021, 10:13 AM

Histrionic as Batty's claim is, I do agree. Plenty of information has come to light to show that not only did Trump and his administration (to be kind and use the term to describe a fumbling, bumbling, shambling loose collection of acolytes, sycophants, losers and brain-dead zombies) KNOW how dangerous Covid was going to be, they ACTIVELY IGNORED AND PLAYED DOWN the risk for nothing but POLITICAL GAIN. Trump, fully expecting to be re-elected, did not want to be remembered as the president who shut America down. Instead he has gone down as the president with the biggest number of American deaths - avoidable deaths - on his hands in history, and also the president who all but starved America to death. Remember those long long lines of cars waiting at food banks?

Nobody - or very few countries - has handled this well, but if there was an Olympics for ****ing Up the Response to Covid, America would be standing on the top podium with a gold medal hanging on its neck.

OccultHawk · 02-09-2021, 06:46 PM

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California has the most coronavirus-related deaths in the U.S., surpassing New York.

With that incredible head start it almost seems like California would have had to spread the virus intentionally to top NY but you got to hand it them. When it comes to being **** bag self-congratulatory selfish ****s California is in a league of their own.

OccultHawk · 02-10-2021, 04:23 PM

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"Someone said, 'Hey, you were at the Super Bowl without a mask,'" DeSantis said Monday, according to Politico's Marc Caputo. "But how the hell am I going to be able to drink a beer with a mask on? Come on. I had to watch the Bucs win."

The photo shows DeSantis seated in what appears to be an executive suite at Raymond James Stadium and speaking with another person seated to his left who less than six feet away.

Deaths so far in Florida: 28,000

Trollheart · 02-10-2021, 06:06 PM

He can drink his beer in Hell, with or without a mask.

The Batlord · 02-10-2021, 06:11 PM

There's no way there's beer in hell.

Trollheart · 02-10-2021, 07:49 PM

There is, but it's warm and flat, tastes like piss and ... oh wait. That's Carlsberg, isn't it?

Actually, the barman in Hell never ever serves you, though he keeps saying "just a minute mate" while serving everyone else, even if they came in long after you.

02-09-2021, 10:13 AM	#3785 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Histrionic as Batty's claim is, I do agree. Plenty of information has come to light to show that not only did Trump and his administration (to be kind and use the term to describe a fumbling, bumbling, shambling loose collection of acolytes, sycophants, losers and brain-dead zombies) KNOW how dangerous Covid was going to be, they ACTIVELY IGNORED AND PLAYED DOWN the risk for nothing but POLITICAL GAIN. Trump, fully expecting to be re-elected, did not want to be remembered as the president who shut America down. Instead he has gone down as the president with the biggest number of American deaths - avoidable deaths - on his hands in history, and also the president who all but starved America to death. Remember those long long lines of cars waiting at food banks? Nobody - or very few countries - has handled this well, but if there was an Olympics for ***ing Up the Response to Covid, America would be standing on the top podium with a gold medal hanging on its neck. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*

02-10-2021, 06:06 PM	#3788 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	He can drink his beer in Hell, with or without a mask. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

02-10-2021, 07:49 PM	#3790 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	There is, but it's warm and flat, tastes like piss and ... oh wait. That's Carlsberg, isn't it? Actually, the barman in Hell never ever serves you, though he keeps saying "just a minute mate" while serving everyone else, even if they came in long after you. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018