Coronavirus: COVID-19

OccultHawk · 05-29-2020, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the same people that were like "oh China is just pretending it's over" are calling for us to do that here

What we’ve done and are doing is so much more negligent and INTENTIONAL

I would understand if the medical community just said **** you America / if you’re not going to try we’re not either

It’s two fold - their government takes action and ours doesn’t and people there have a sense of community not just selfish individualism

Make no mistake about it plenty of our oligarchy loves covid because of the medical debt and financial fall out on the poor. And the oligarchy is our government so I’m so ****ing sick of hearing other places are worse. Murdering the poor for profit is rock bottom and that is how we’re governed.

If you get it and it turns out to be a lifetime of complications that’s good. It means you’ll never escape debt and that’s where they want you from birth to death. No place on earth has this institutionalized like America.

And I’d like to only hate the rich but the poor are horrible people too. It’s like an American birth certificate is an assignment to be a piece of ****.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-29-2020, 09:21 AM

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Yeah. Once people stop thinking about something, it just vanishes. I've had customers literally tell me that it's a scam and they wont follow policy due to a "breech in your freedom." I then proceed to ask them to leave the store. I ain't getting sick.

It has surprised me how many people think this.

Psy-Fi · 05-29-2020, 10:40 AM

Custom face mask is a creepy way to greet the world

Psy-Fi · 05-30-2020, 06:19 AM

How Vietnam managed to keep its coronavirus death toll at zero

OccultHawk · 05-30-2020, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi

How Vietnam managed to keep its coronavirus death toll at zero

They have a government that cares about their people and people who have reason to trust their government. Thank God America lost that war. We should rename the Vietnam Memorial Wall too the Wall of Vietnamese Heroism and Triumph.

Anteater · 05-30-2020, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

They have a government that cares about their people and people who have reason to trust their government. Thank God America lost that war. We should rename the Vietnam Memorial Wall too the Wall of Vietnamese Heroism and Triumph.

Vietnam's government merely decided to take fascist action super early, even before the WHO laid out any guidelines or had any conclusive evidence about human-to-human transmission. That's all. It has nothing to do with how much or how little they care about their people. A more likely explanation is that the rich and powerful who live in Vietnam are just way more paranoid and pressured the government to act in their favor. When the ruling class freak out about something collectively, that tends to make a government do things quicker.

If they had followed the exact same response pattern as their neighbors or the rest of the world and ended up with lots of outbreaks and deaths, you really think they'd support their people when their healthcare infrastructure is worse than ours? Highly doubtful.

rostasi · 05-30-2020, 08:59 AM

Your capacity to spread bullshit just astounds me.

Anteater · 05-30-2020, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi

Your capacity to spread bullshit just astounds me.

Based on your previous responses to me in other threads, I believe that you flip-flop so much that I honestly don't care. You can't even make up your mind about basic ****, nor comprehend the implications of a sentence like "Vietnam only has 8 doctors for every 10,000 people.". Some very wealthy people were very very afraid when they saw those first reports coming out of China.

The point is that Vietnam was rather smart in this case to act on it's own economic interests despite how it might have looked to the EU and others, which is why they completely shut their borders down and took drastic measures weeks before everyone else. It wasn't because they care about their people.

Here's some good reading material for you - ForeignPolicy - Vietnam’s Coronavirus Success Is Built on Repression

Anteater · 05-30-2020, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I wouldn't call it fascist in this case

looks like they took intelligent action

it's a much poorer country that managed to avoid deaths, we had no excuse, and our gov failed us spectacularly

I sometimes wonder if we'd be dealing with the current situation at all if Trump had just shut all international travel down in early to mid January instead of what actually transpired. Maybe it was already too late back then.

**Exo** · 05-30-2020, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I sometimes wonder if we'd be dealing with the current situation at all if Trump had just shut all international travel down in early to mid January instead of what actually transpired. Maybe it was already too late back then.

The American people would have never allowed that with all their freedoms at stake. "Live Free or Die" taken at a literal level. I think I might move to Vietnam. They seem awesome.

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rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,007	Your capacity to spread bullshit just astounds me.