Coronavirus: COVID-19

Anteater · 04-24-2020, 09:49 PM

You guys get played by the media and never seem to bother looking into anything. That includes actually looking at full statements in context. Such examples would include his comments on Charlottesville and also his comments on "Mexican rapists". And none of you even realize you've done it, but I see it clearly.

I'm not saying his grasp on language is good. Because he clearly isn't giving it nearly as much thought as it deserves. But he never told people to inject bleach, swallow bleach, whatever. Anyone who watched more than 30 seconds clips of the entire press conference clearly saw him responding to statements made about sunlight, UV, etc. from his own experts.

PolitiFact - In Context: What Donald Trump said about disinfectant, sun and coronavirus

**Frownland** · 04-24-2020, 09:53 PM

Good for you bro.

Neapolitan · 04-25-2020, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You guys get played by the media and never seem to bother looking into anything. That includes actually looking at full statements in context. Such examples would include his comments on Charlottesville and also his comments on "Mexican rapists". And none of you even realize you've done it, but I see it clearly.

I'm not saying his grasp on language is good. Because he clearly isn't giving it nearly as much thought as it deserves. But he never told people to inject bleach, swallow bleach, whatever. Anyone who watched more than 30 seconds clips of the entire press conference clearly saw him responding to statements made about sunlight, UV, etc. from his own experts.

PolitiFact - In Context: What Donald Trump said about disinfectant, sun and coronavirus

I read that and it sounded like he was tired of asking questions about it. So he starts riffing pseudoscientifcally about using sunlight in vivo. Does riffing pseudoscientifcally prove his grasp on language is not good? It doesn't prove it to me.

I don't want to get the debate what Trump actually meant by the bleach comment, but because the topic of bleach has been brought up ... Sodium hydroxide from bleach always has the potential to kill viruses in vitro. I mean that is the reason why people clean and disinfect surface areas with bleach. However sodium hydroxide in vivo would strip the of cells thus destroying them. And that is the reason why you shouldn't drink bleach, cause it contain sodium hydroxide. The short of it, don't drink bleach. Don't. Don't. Don't.

Another important note while on the subject of bleach: you should NOT combine ammonia and bleach when cleaning. One is good but two isn't better, the combination of the two is deadly toxic.

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There was nothing taken out of context.

In another statement he also demonstrated he has no idea what a virus is.

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"They develop drugs like the antibiotics … you see … antibiotics used to solve every problem. Now one of the biggest problems the world is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic cannot keep up with it.

I don't get where he misspoke on the topic of viruses per se. When I read it, I didn't see him mention viruses. Maybe if you have the full transcript where he's demonstrating this lack of viral knowledge this would be interesting to read. In my opinion what he was alluding to in that brief statement are pathogens (whlch he calls "germs e.g. strains of bacteria, viruses, parasites and fungi that causes diseases) that become resistant to anti-bodies, these pathogens are aka "super bugs." I don't get where he misspoke on the topic of viruses. "Super bugs" are something that the medical and scientific communities are very concern about.

OccultHawk · 04-25-2020, 12:14 AM

He clearly didn’t understand that antibiotics are useless against viruses.

Lucem Ferre · 04-25-2020, 01:25 AM

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slipping in that Charlottesville comment lol

The sad part is, the context literally doesn't change any of the statements he's made. IDK why Ant sniffs Trump's ass so much for a dude that doesn't like Trump. Allegedly.

**Janszoon** · 04-25-2020, 01:53 AM

What's up fellow quarentinees?

Anteater · 04-25-2020, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

The sad part is, the context literally doesn't change any of the statements he's made. IDK why Ant sniffs Trump's ass so much for a dude that doesn't like Trump. Allegedly.

Cause when you make statements like that it gives credence to the idea that maybe people don't care about the truth and the whole Orange Man Bad thing has some legs to it. Did you read the article I linked to? It spells it out more clearly that I could here.

The media took literally two sentences and turned it into a story where Trump was telling people to inject bleach. Which is clearly not what was going on and irresponsible in a way that should be called out. But unlike voters in regards to Trump, I can't vote the media out of office. All I can do is point it out.

There are plenty of examples of Trump straight up saying things contextually that are as they appear to be and deserve mockery (such as his ill-advised hype of that anti-malarial drug and his comments to reporters that he has "absolute authority"). It seems odd to me that I get lectured about Trump when every time I call something out, it's usually about something I read or saw that showcases intellectual dishonesty in the way something was approached and reported. Context is always important, no?

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I don't get where he misspoke on the topic of viruses per se. When I read it, I didn't see him mention viruses. Maybe if you have the full transcript where he's demonstrating this lack of viral knowledge this would be interesting to read. In my opinion what he was alluding to in that brief statement are pathogens (whlch he calls "germs e.g. strains of bacteria, viruses, parasites and fungi that causes diseases) that become resistant to anti-bodies, these pathogens are aka "super bugs." I don't get where he misspoke on the topic of viruses. "Super bugs" are something that the medical and scientific communities are very concern about.

Trump's lack of a filter and limited vocabulary on that subject is evident. He's getting up and doing these coronavirus briefings and asking dumb-sounding questions to his experts in an off-the-cuff manner as though he were sitting across from Joe Rogan or Howard Stern or whoever in a relaxed setting. If you focus less on his language and get to the "heart" of what he's trying to say through basic inference, what he actually means becomes clear. He's talking about something he heard in regards to the super bugs but isn't using accurate terminology.

OccultHawk · 04-25-2020, 08:47 AM

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Catching Covid-19 once may not protect you from getting it again, according to the World Health Organization, a finding that could jeopardize efforts to allow people to return to work after recovering from the virus.
“There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from Covid-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection,” the United Nations agency said in an April 24 statement.

If this turns out to be the case - whew - that’s going to be the worst news of our shortened lifetimes unless that vaccine really comes soon.

OccultHawk · 04-25-2020, 08:51 AM

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A 23-year-old in Italy being treated for the disease caused by the novel coronavirus continues to test positive, despite two months of quarantine and continual swabs.

-Newsweek

See above.

Anteater · 04-25-2020, 08:52 AM

Isn't there something like six to eight different strains of this thing in actuality?

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