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MicShazam

10-23-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 2008007)

Have you watched it yet, elph?

No, because he really felt that he should start from the beginning of Cronenberg's filmography. Elph is just serious about film like that.

Oriphiel

10-23-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2008008)

Have elph seen Green Room?

Aye, elph should seen

Btw, I actually have a Green Room poster tacked up, one of those small ones that they give out in theater lobbies that only weirdos like me ever take.

Frownland

10-23-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 2008012)

Aye, elph should seen

Btw, I actually have a Green Room poster tacked up, one of those small ones that they give out in theater lobbies that only weirdos like me ever take.

Has you seen Blue Ruin? Not as thrilling as Green Room but it's a lot more interesting imo.

Oriphiel

10-23-2018 02:52 PM

Nope, just Green Room. But I'll check it out. Always up to seen more cool ****.

Frownland

10-23-2018 05:50 PM

Punk spunk.

Oriphiel

11-06-2018 03:34 PM

Hey elph

If you give in and just watch this movie already, I'll listen to nothing but No-Wave for a month

Oriphiel

11-13-2018 08:50 AM

I'll listen to The Cure for the first time.

I'll do a full discog review of The Fall.

I'll teach you how to pull out.

Whatever you want.

Oriphiel

11-13-2018 09:21 AM

I've never said that Siouxsie invalidates The Cure or The Smiths, I just haven't gotten around to listening to them.

And now I'm never gonna listen to them until you watch Videodrome.

Oriphiel

11-13-2018 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2014878)

I don't take movies seriously btw

Why not? Even if you don't like the storytelling, does the visual element of the medium do nothing for you? 'Cause there are plenty of movies that are basically just cool visuals mixed with cool music.

Oriphiel

11-13-2018 04:14 PM

Plot twist: elph was his own girlfriend all along

https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting....size=620%2C331

Mondo Bungle

11-13-2018 06:35 PM

movies are for the ignorant dregs of society

Oriphiel

11-21-2018 01:31 AM

Yaaaay! :beer:

The Batlord

11-21-2018 12:58 PM

Now watch Mulholland Drive!

MicShazam

11-21-2018 01:03 PM

Mulholland Drive is good but the David Lynch is still a pretty overrated director. He's not half as weird or interesting as people make him. Plus he often resorts to straight up cheese.

Frownland

11-21-2018 01:16 PM

You stopped watching Inland Empire because it was too weird for you, but he's not weird. K then.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2017321)

You stopped watching Inland Empire because it was too weird for you, but he's not weird. K then.

I've watched all his other movies except Dune, plus all of Twin Peaks season one and half of season 2. Inland Empire had Lynch ism's all over it and it moves at a crawl at best. I'm not treating it like a precious treasure just because it's Lynch, so I turned it off like I would with any other movie that bores me for 40 minutes straight.

The Batlord

11-21-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2017320)

I couldn't tell how serious the movie's themes are meant to be taken

is this a serious commentary about how sex and violence is used in mass media to "open us up" to suggestion?

or is Lynch having a bit of fun with a surreal visual depiction of these ideas about how mass media influences us

not knowing anything about Lynch or film in general I wouldn't be able to contextualize it, additionally it's difficult to divorce oneself from viewing the movie as someone living in 2018 where violence and sex in media is well worked politicized ground vs. the early 80's

It's a David Cronenberg movie. Not a Lynch movie.

Frownland

11-21-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2017327)

Doesn't mean that it's not weird.

"Wah boring" = the laziest criticism you can levy at something btw. It doesn't really tell you anything about the film.

The Batlord

11-21-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2017333)

I fixed it

all is right

Don't worry, I edited my post so everyone would know you made a mistake.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2017339)

Doesn't mean that it's not weird.

"Wah boring" = the laziest criticism you can levy at something btw. It doesn't really tell you anything about the film.

The rabbit sitcom with canned laughs and no jokes would qualify as weird by most standards for sure.

Well I'm not going to attempt to say anything more in-depth about a movie that I didn't even get halfway through. Nothing happening for those ~40 minutes interested me in the slightest, so I never got to a point where I could have anything to say about it.

I was looking at the timer, considering what else I could be doing before I had to got to bed, any the movie got the knife. It happens.

Frownland

11-21-2018 01:43 PM

I find descents into madness brought on by poisonous Holywood culture to be pretty interesting, personally.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 01:47 PM

I probably like the idea of Inland Empire better than I like the specific way it's put together.

Maps to the Stars has similar themes in some way, sort of and I liked that one, even if it wasn't the best Cronenberg movie. I'm just way more of a Cronenberg fanboi, really.

Frownland

11-21-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2017354)

I probably like the idea of Inland Empire better than I like the specific way it's put together.

You'd probably enjoy its structure more if you watched more than a third of it.

Also when it comes to watching Lynch, the first 1-3 views are for just taking it in, then you can start trying to make sense of it on further viewings. And yes, all of his films make sense on some level--don't just dismiss his uncompromising style as the emperor's new clothes.

Oriphiel

11-21-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2017324)

I also feel the importance of "the new skin" and most of the character that's only seen on TV screens is pretty much over my head

perhaps with a repeat watching, I'd get more from it, but idk that I liked the movie that much

but even if you turned off your brain completely and didn't try to derive meaning the film is entertaining, great score and imagery

And how 'bout Debbie Harry getting a needle through the nipple? Made me cringe the first time I watched it.

I'm glad you got a kick out of it, though. My mission in life is now complete.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2017365)

Hey at least I gave it a second chance. Just a shame that I didn't really make it further than the first time. At least when I gave Mulholland Drive another view recently, I actually liked it (used not to).

My brother has also been praising Twin Peaks season 3 recently, but I don't know if I really want to give that a try. I'd probably have to rewatch (and actually finish) the old series to really get 100% out of it.

Oriphiel

11-21-2018 02:00 PM

You would absolutely not be able to make it through the whole third season.

Not even trying to be facetious, it's just not for you.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 02:01 PM

I did make it through the first seasons and mostly liked it. Could have cut back on the number of plots and characters and the soap opera elements, but I liked it at the time. Season 2 somehow left me cold.

Frownland

11-21-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2017369)

Hey at least I gave it a second chance. Just a shame that I didn't really make it further than the first time.

You didn't even give it one chance from what I hear.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2017374)

You didn't even give it one chance from what I hear.

Let's call it an attempt.

Oriphiel

11-21-2018 02:05 PM

Season 3 is Lynch on crack.

We're talking constant super extended scenes of absolute silence, **** that pops up for five seconds before disappearing without explanation, extensive plot lines revolving around characters are never even introduced. The whole works.

MicShazam

11-21-2018 02:06 PM

Wonderful.

Oriphiel

11-21-2018 02:08 PM

Yup. And I loved every ****ing second of it.

Mondo Bungle

11-21-2018 02:14 PM

Rabbits is hysterical

Oriphiel

12-05-2019 09:13 AM

Yo Elph, have you seen Office Space?

Plankton

12-05-2019 09:24 AM

Someone's got a case of the Trollhearts.

Neapolitan

12-05-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2017381)

that scene was weirdly the most tense thing in the entire film, even when it was just her ear

Plump Fiction, when she gets intracardiacal injection of adrenaline. Now that was tense.

YorkeDaddy

12-05-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2093686)

ye great movie

even when I was a kid I found it super relatable

What about it do you find relatable?

I love the film too of course

The Batlord

12-05-2019 07:14 PM

I like how the main character basically suffers brain damage or something but at end of the movie he isn't cured cause he's already cured.

Neapolitan

12-05-2019 07:27 PM

I like when the vented over the "Xerox machine."

Oriphiel

12-05-2019 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2093686)

ye great movie

even when I was a kid I found it super relatable

:beer:

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