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12-27-2020, 07:40 AM | #871 (permalink) | ||
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Sure, that's another subtle shade of queerbaiting.
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12-27-2020, 11:57 AM | #872 (permalink) | |
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I would have thought that too if not for certain actions of hers and the #nohomo comments of hers like I mentioned. Now I think she used to like the speculation, (why else would she have done that SUPER gay Vogue cover with Karlie, after all?) but then something we refer to as Kissgate happened (grainy video footage of a very drunk Taylor and Karlie possibly kissing at a concert began circulating on all the media outlets). I imagine that might of freaked her out a bit (since after that, she gradually stopped being publicly touchy feeling with Karlie)-- maybe the speculation became too real at that point. Prior to that I think she may in fact have been subtly encouraging it or even testing the waters for a possible coming out, due to the huge success of her album 1989 building her confidence and such. But now, I suspect she may eventually go the "lavender marriage" route and never come out publicly, as many other before her have done. (which is perfectly valid of course.)
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12-27-2020, 02:50 PM | #874 (permalink) |
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Lavender marriages have been a thing since the old hollywood days. It works fine for some I'm sure.
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12-27-2020, 11:29 PM | #876 (permalink) | |||
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(And then there's been so many little things like occasionally using female pronouns during a song during live performances, and writing a very gay sounding song called Dress and then, during the Reputation tour, dedicated the performance of Dress to Loie Fuller, of all people-- a lesbian dancer of yore.) Dress lyrics: Spoiler for .:
Sure, any of these little things alone can be explained away, but still. I do still think it's possible that she (while also capitalizing off all of it) was testing the waters for a possible coming out, as I mentioned. Some think that the whole drama surrounding Scooter Braun buying her masters & former record label made her not want to risk getting any more negative publicity (not that it was all negative, but I feel even the smallest amount drives her crazy) if, for instance, she came out as bi/"fluid" and her more conservative and immature fanbase felt weird about it. She has said before that she is terrified of making any of her fans feel alienated. Quote from a 2015 Elle interview: Quote:
All of this is difficult to fully explain to someone who is not aware of all the Taylor Swift background lore (I have always been fascinated by her whole PR strategy for some reason, so I pay extra close attention when she starts doing something new/parading a new boyfriend around or whatever). But I assure you my opinions/hunches about all this are not based on nothing. It's just quite a lot to sum up is all. As I said, I think she is a deeply neurotic, ambitious horse girl type of person. Based on interviews and such I feel, as I said, that she's much more involved in her brand and image than most pop stars of her caliber. Or at least she has been since she left her old label, I suspect. In her netflix documentary there's a scene where she's sitting down with a bunch of people from her team, as well as her father. She is trying to express to them that she wants to speak out about some political thing-- she mentioned feeling "muzzled" in the past-- and they are all telling her "Noooo no it's a bad idea, just don't" which tells me that they'd react the same way if, for instance, she wanted to go public about being bisexual/gay (if she is not straight) or anything. Since, after all, for years she/her team cultivated an image of a relatable, super-accessible wholesome girl who made fans believe they were her personal friends so they were as emotionally invested as possible. She referred to her songs as diary entries about her real personal life, whether it was true or not. It's clear she regrets that now, seeing as she's going out of her way to say "These last two albums are based on FICTIONAL CHARACTERS!!!" as though it's some novel unheard of concept. Because she knows that the crazy swifties have this desperate need for her to be relatable to them, personally so that they can continue to project upon her and the dramatic love stories she sings about. Also worth noting is this bit that was in the booklet that came with the Reputation album: Remember, she's addressing diehard swifties here. She has to spell everything out for them. I found it odd that she emphasized this, however, considering her previous strategy of making her fans feel like they were her bffs and knew her soooo well. So whether she was ever going to really follow through with it (a coming out) or not, I do feel this marked the beginning of an attempt to gradually distance herself from parts of her original, homophobic/conservative fanbase who seem to NEED her to have a wholesome hetero relationship and love story going on at all times. (While at the same time ofc throwing them breadcrumbs here and there so they continue buying her albums, since she is clearly very much a capitalist after all. Yes, I know one can argue that that's all she's doing with her LGB fans, but I don't think that's the case based on the much more subtle-- yet obvious to those paying attention-- hints and clues and imagery and themes that have been evident in her body of work and performances and even commercials through the years. Whereas it's like she KNOWS that straight swifties are incredibly obtuse as well as gullible and will be thrilled with 1 single staged photo of her and a man holding hands.) Also, once again, she has a song called "I Know Places" about having to hide a lover. "Well that's just about being famous and having to avoid the paprazzi!" swifties say. But she, like other celebrities obviously call the paprazzi when they wish to be photographed (as she used to be almost daily outside her apartment in NYC), duh. And this was in the performance of that song during the 1989 tour: ..people jumping in and out of what appear to be closets. Yes, sure, could be nothing. Let's look at some of the lyrcis: Quote:
In conclusion, I am right. Here's some bonus gifs/pictures of her and Karlie looking very not straight (am using Karlie related stuff just because that whole period had by far the most overt, um, indicators) : Spoiler for yes i know I sound insane and creepy:
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12-31-2020, 06:24 PM | #877 (permalink) | ||
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ok so I started reading up on these gaylor theories and I'm now in over my head. She definitely gives off a humongous amount of queer vibes. This photo omg (it's somehow more convincing to me than all the theories together)
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01-04-2021, 07:34 AM | #878 (permalink) | |
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^ Cool shirt! I also have one in the same color with the exact same design but mine's an original B.O.C. tour shirt from the 70's. Anyway, as long as I'm here... Greece names first openly gay minister |
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01-04-2021, 09:31 AM | #879 (permalink) |
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Is there any other human that's ever lived that's had this much attention paid to their love life/sexuality? Quite a throne we've put Taylor on. For me she makes solid easy listening music that I like and that's it really.
Taylor's not really my type but this is definitely a hot ass pic of her
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01-04-2021, 12:14 PM | #880 (permalink) | |
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She has an 11/10 face with an 8/10 everything else.
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