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Old 06-23-2022, 03:42 AM   #1381 (permalink)
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Well put but the question remains why so many males are not only homophobic but actually terrified by the mere idea. I have one theory and it’s a wild jump. Men I’ve known more often than not regard the female of our species as inferior. Therefore to even contemplate something like taking the so called passive role in male/male sex is to ‘lower’ yourself to the level of a chic/sheila/bird/. I’m only guessing here.

Not that I’ve found it a problem over the decades having found more than enough males willing to dance the bedroom tango.
I even had a relationship for two years with another man and two women. Hard to explain other than suggesting our bedroom tango was an ‘eight way’. Think about it.
It's complex for sure and so sad that we create all these mind prisons for ourselves. Misogyny could play a part, I'm sure.

I hope you'll pardon such a personal question, but have you had many sexual encounters with men who consider themselves heterosexual?
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Old 06-23-2022, 04:57 AM   #1382 (permalink)
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It's complex for sure and so sad that we create all these mind prisons for ourselves. Misogyny could play a part, I'm sure.

I hope you'll pardon such a personal question, but have you had many sexual encounters with men who consider themselves heterosexual?
More often than not I’ve avoided them. Especially when I knew the ‘I was too drunk to know what I was doing’ game was about to be indulged in. Maybe my experience however was soured at an early age by a man who played the active role with me only to exclaim after the act “Now I must get me a real woman” Told him to f*ck off in no uncertain terms.

I have a very vivid memory decades after the event of a man I hitched a ride home with. I had no intention of seducing him but somehow I ended up being his first male/male encounter. Not before or since have I experienced so an intense an episode. I’ll spare you the details but simply put somehow every part of our anatomy became as sensitive as the usual focus of male erotic experience. He returned interstate in the morning with me thinking I’d never see him again. Turned up at my door some years later with his fiancé suggesting a three way encounter. Now that’s one man I’d never want to share (unusual for me) so as kindly as I could I sent them away. SIGH ! WILT! SWOON !

One fairly consistent aspect of straight men’s behavior is if you actually get them into bed they more often than not will be the one who ‘bites the pillow’. An experience I had with four AFL footballers (VFL in those days). And no, don’t ask for names.

For those of you not familiar with Australian Rules football AFL stands for Australian Football League & VFL for Victorian Football League.
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Old 06-23-2022, 07:49 AM   #1383 (permalink)
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One fairly consistent aspect of straight men’s behavior is if you actually get them into bed they more often than not will be the one who ‘bites the pillow’.
Sure, this makes complete sense to me What I'm most curious about when it comes to sex with someone with a ding-dong is of course the sort of experiences that I can't have with someone equipped with a vajay, or at least not as easily.

Thanks for your candidness!
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Thanks for your candidness!
Honey, I’ve been sparing you most of the sordid details.
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:22 AM   #1385 (permalink)
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Now that’s one man I’d never want to share (unusual for me) ...
I find this quite fascinating. I don't know what it is, nature or social conditioning, that makes (most of?) us so possessive of our partners. The reason my partner and I are monogamous is because neither of us likes the idea of sharing the other.

There do seem to be a lot more open relationships among gay people but I'm not really sure how people make that work. I kind of look at sex as an important glue in a relationship. Opening it up would (maybe, I have no personal experience in this) dilute the tension and glue that helps smooth out some of the usual problems when two people spend a lot of time together. In my inexperienced mind at least. If you have sex with other people, aren't you just going into the territory of friendship with benefits? Or does the love and appreciation of the other person simply go (sufficiently) beyond the physical to fix any potential hang-ups (jealousy, feeling of inadequacy etc)?
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:58 PM   #1386 (permalink)
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Honey, I’ve been sparing you most of the sordid details.
Don't spare me for my sake. You may very well be more sordid than me, but I don't scare easily. I've been in a foursome and a few threesomes and like it a lot. From my experience so far, 2 guys 1 girl has been my favorite combination. That sort of sex life isn't quite compatible with my romantic relationship today and so is a thing of the past (sadly), but at least I'm no prude.

If I was single and they'd have me, I'd love to date hot couples
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Old 06-23-2022, 05:21 PM   #1387 (permalink)
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What a perfect take on it! Although, making my colleagues drunk so they get it might not go well in a local government workplace.

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It can easily become the end of your world if you get sprung in a fundamentalist muslim country, or Russia or China and many parts of Africa.
It's the kind of media that doesn't get shown mainstream, which I wish it would be. I truly believe that that sexuality is a spectrum and humans are naturally tailored towards all times of sexual interactions.

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I realize you may not actually think it's a mystery and it's just interesting writing/hyperbole, but I've anyways opted to take your statement at face value and reply accordingly.

So to me, what you describe about enticing same-sex rears is not a mystery. We're social mammals and there's nothing in our biology that says males shouldn't have sex with other males, like homosexuality in so many other social mammals (like the famous giraffes where most of a male's sexual encounters are homosexual in nature). From a biology point of view, it seems reasonable to think that sexual relations between men would be promoted in many situations because it could strengthen bonds, promote cooperation (our specialty) and generally help satisfy various needs. I actually get the impression that males are more likely to be sexually compatible with other males (in terms of wants/desires, etc) than with women. As you point out, there's even a prostate gland that enjoys attention. In my opinion - in the absence of any culture/conditioning that says otherwise, the thought or act of homosexual activity should be expected to, by far, potentially turn most men on.

Heterosexuality is just a human concept. It's not written in our DNA and when fantasy meets reality, parts of fantasy can melt away. Our sexuality, if you look at sexuality under intense scrutiny, doesn't actually fit into these neat categories. Generally speaking for heterosexuals, there are potential situations where they'd enjoy homosexual activities or possibly even romantic relationships with other same-sex individuals. Maybe, if society was different, they would.

If I'm to use society's general descriptors for myself, then I am a heterosexual man. I've never been in love with another man and 99% of my fantasies are about women. However, there are a very few men I've found attractive and I assume part of those 99% can be explained by society's conditioning. I have actually had a couple of homosexual encounters that were enjoyable for me. If I was free to do so, I wouldn't mind exploring that more with the right partner.

I don't think that's the norm, so what might set me apart from perhaps most other heterosexual guys is I think of sexuality as very rough descriptors and don't internalize it into my own identity. I am not homophobic, am fairly liberal and want to have enjoyable experiences. So I don't think I'm different in a fundamental way from most heterosexual guys, I just have a different way of thinking about it.

What I think is most mysterious or interesting is why we create memes (as in moral codes, religious commands, beliefs) that control various aspects of our lives in seemingly detrimental ways, especially when it comes to sexuality. I have some inklings and one is that things that control our most basic urges seem powerful and feel important to us, like celibacy or perhaps fasting. These memes compete against other memes (gay is wrong / gay is okay are general competing memes), but for some reason the bad ones sometimes get ahead in competition with more tolerant ideas. I find that to be a very fascinating topic in general.
I believe that we are in a time period where the society of our current day is going to implode on itself. The religious dogma that defines how a man should be with a woman only, is being disintegrated along with capitalism and the state of the planet. What if we are going to evolve into a higher state of consciousness and create a new way of being human.

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I have a very vivid memory decades after the event of a man I hitched a ride home with. I had no intention of seducing him but somehow I ended up being his first male/male encounter. Not before or since have I experienced so an intense an episode. I’ll spare you the details but simply put somehow every part of our anatomy became as sensitive as the usual focus of male erotic experience. He returned interstate in the morning with me thinking I’d never see him again. Turned up at my door some years later with his fiancé suggesting a three way encounter. Now that’s one man I’d never want to share (unusual for me) so as kindly as I could I sent them away. SIGH ! WILT! SWOON !
So I am pansexual, I will literally have sex with/date anyone of any 'gender'. Is it weird that I am really turned on right now after reading about your experience? The idea of two men, slowly and sensually coming together and having sex makes me feel horny as. However, I don't mean to disrespect or fetishize your experience, I am thinking about it generally.
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Are these guys serious or just sending us all up ?
Either way it’s musically dull as dishwater.



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