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06-07-2022, 10:59 PM | #1291 (permalink) | |
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I think you're just a liberal who cares more about civility politics that amount to bad word Puritanism rather than being concerned with real world cultural politics. I mean the far right is on the rise threatening democracies all around the world and using gay and trans people as scapegoats for supposed cultural degeneracy and if given half a chance will use that **** to "encourage" you all back in the closet but dimwits concern themselves with an artist spreading an actually good message because he uses bad words.
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06-08-2022, 02:51 AM | #1293 (permalink) | |||
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Why, what other way is there to interpret it? He describes the messy reaction of his past self to trans family members coming out, and he directly shows the messiness of it. That doesn't seem inappropriate to me.
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06-08-2022, 03:26 AM | #1294 (permalink) |
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I guess you didn't read the article, the same story/point could have been made without misgendering and deadnaming. Not to mention dropping the f-bomb, for which he should have taken the advice at the end but decided not to.
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06-08-2022, 06:10 AM | #1295 (permalink) | ||
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I skimmed it but I don't agree. I'm pretty sure he's not misgendering and deadnaming, he is depicting his past self doing so. And of course that's uncomfortable, but that's the point, that's what that kind of messy, inept process of learning tolerance is like. This way the point comes across more strongly than if he just described it in a less direct way I think
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06-08-2022, 07:15 AM | #1296 (permalink) | |
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Yeah it's supposed to have an effect on the listener. The listener is supposed to be smart enough to analyze that effect though.
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06-09-2022, 02:23 PM | #1297 (permalink) | |
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Context is dead, all text is literal now, Johnny Cash actually shot a man in Reno just to watch him die, Dead Kennedys actually killed children, Randy Newman actually hates short people, etc.
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06-09-2022, 03:08 PM | #1299 (permalink) | ||
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I doubt anyone actually believes this is a serious issue, it's just frivolous think piece fodder.
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06-09-2022, 10:25 PM | #1300 (permalink) |
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What, deadnaming and misgendering and using the f-word or the disagreement in that this was done "in character". Question, can any white person in music use the n-word "in character"?
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