The queer corner

**Frownland** · 10-11-2021, 01:15 AM

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um like i said i hyped him up more than i should but yeah i still like the special, the trans joke wasnt the best part of the special, but if you ask why i laughed at that joke it was the face and I'm pretty sure i did say that to you when this argument first came up way back when...

You did hit that point while backpedaling to be fair.

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~~jwb~~ · 10-11-2021, 01:29 AM

...to be fair in other words you went back to read and see i was right as usual.

Backpedaling what exactly? Tell me what you think i think is funny about the joke. Tell me what dave is even saying with the joke that i "agree" with.

You doing all this interrogating go ahead and tell me the right answer and we can discuss that instead

**Frownland** · 10-11-2021, 01:53 AM

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...to be fair in other words you went back to read and see i was right as usual.

Nah I mean you made the initial point that the joke itself was actually brilliant and everyone who didn't think so was just a sensitive bitch before distancing yourself from the transphobic roots that were pointed out to you pushing you directly into the "I just think he sounds funny!" stage. Backpedaling is a negative term.

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Tell me what you think i think is funny about the joke. Tell me what dave is even saying with the joke that i "agree" with.

You already did. He got a funny voice and the joke doesn't even matter. Wait till you see him jingle his keys!

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You doing all this interrogating go ahead and tell me the right answer and we can discuss that instead

To avoid the fact that you're building a farcical separation between your ideas and the things you like that are heavily rooted in similar ideas? Can't we play a different game?

~~jwb~~ · 10-11-2021, 02:06 AM

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Nah I mean you made the initial point that the joke itself was actually brilliant and everyone who didn't think so was just a sensitive bitch before distancing yourself from the transphobic roots that were pointed out to you pushing you directly into the "I just think he sounds funny!" stage. Backpedaling is a negative term.

no i didn't lol quote me

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You already did. He got a funny voice and the joke doesn't even matter. Wait till you see him jingle his keys!

avoiding the question pal? You think there's some deeper reason i find it funny why won't you enlighten me

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To avoid the fact that you're building a farcical separation between your ideas and the things you like that are heavily rooted in similar ideas? Can't we play a different game?

this is what I'm asking you .. which ideas?

You won't answer that for some reason. If you won't then how can i possibly comment on the connection between my taste in comedy and whatever ideas it is you're referencing.

And don't just go "reactionary blah blah blah" give me a specific idea not vague buzzwords

**Frownland** · 10-11-2021, 02:21 AM

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no i didn't lol quote me

You said this before you mentioned the delivery

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I think you resent the angle he's taking cause it goes against your ideology but there were tons of good lines in there.

And funny how he said nothing provocative yet they're was a backlash. You're living in the twilight zone.

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No his act is extremely important right now. Because people want to destroy that brand of humor. You're not supposed to punch down. That's why Dave was so in your face about it this time cause last time he got some flack for very mild tranny jokes. So this was a guy with f*ck-you money saying let me joke about whatever I want to joke about.

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avoiding the question pal? You think there's some deeper reason i find it funny why won't you enlighten me

this is what I'm asking you .. which ideas?

It appeals to the normative transphobia that you're accustomed to.

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You won't answer that for some reason. If you won't then how can i possibly comment on the connection between my taste in comedy and whatever ideas it is you're referencing.

But you won't keep that from stopping you lol

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And don't just go "reactionary blah blah blah" give me a specific idea not vague buzzwords

Eh, I'll just use what I think communicates my ideas instead. If you have hangups caused by popular media usage of a word then just clarify that and I'll let you know if that's how I meant it or not.

~~jwb~~ · 10-11-2021, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You said this before you mentioned the delivery

.... You actually think that quote matches what you described me saying about the trans joke being brilliant and everyone who didn't get it are just sensitive bitches?

edit : ah, you added a second quote that also doesn't say anything close to what you described, lol

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It appeals to the normative transphobia that you're accustomed to.

vague. Possibly true but vague and also... Not why it's funny lol. It could just be i accept the joke because I'm accustomed to transphobia where as you reject it specifically because you find it transphobic.. i am not bothered by the joke being somewhat transphobic but that doesn't mean it's funny simply cause it's transphobic

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But you won't keep that from stopping you lol

what?

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Eh, I'll just use what I think communicates my ideas instead. If you have hangups caused by popular media usage of a word then just clarify that and I'll let you know if that's how I meant it or not.

i was asking you to be clear in which ideas you are ascribing to me. Since half the time you respond to **** you read into my posts that's not even there imo.

**Frownland** · 10-11-2021, 02:59 AM

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.... You actually think that quote matches what you described me saying about the trans joke being brilliant and everyone who didn't get it are just sensitive bitches?

Yes.

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vague. Possibly true but vague and also... Not why it's funny lol. It could just be i accept the joke because I'm accustomed to transphobia

So like, exactly what I said lmao

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i am not bothered by the joke being somewhat transphobic but that doesn't mean it's funny simply cause it's transphobic

Right. The appeal of transphobia is a driving aspect alongside the funny voice. Two things true at the same time, wild innit.

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i was asking you to be clear in which ideas you are ascribing to me. Since half the time you respond to **** you read into my posts that's not even there imo.

You're just gonna scoff at the prospect of being psychoanalyzed after requesting it, but:

You hastily defend transphobia as not worth criticizing because you're close enough to that mindset that you might receive some of that criticism yourself. You recognize on some level that transphobia is becoming passe. Then you lead everyone through all this semantic bull**** where you deflect away from your original point propelling transphobia to something more innocuous while framing your inability to understand a point as evidence against it in order to make the idea you're rejecting seem nonsensical.

~~jwb~~ · 10-11-2021, 03:25 AM

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Yes.

i didn't even reference the joke in question in either of the two posts you quoted. You are really reaching.

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So like, exactly what I said lmao

Right. The appeal of transphobia is a driving aspect alongside the funny voice. Two things true at the same time, wild innit.

you seem to have problems reading... I said he made a funny face not voice and i didn't say the transphobia was part of the appeal of the joke either.

I just am not bothered by it like you are. I take it as relatively light hearted and benign.

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You're just gonna scoff at the prospect of being psychoanalyzed after requesting it, but:

You hastily defend transphobia as not worth criticizing because you're close enough to that mindset that you might receive some of that criticism yourself. You recognize on some level that transphobia is becoming passe.

uh yeah there's truth to that but it's more like i think it's become so trendy to make noise on these topics online that people overreact to pretty benign offenses.

But that's not WHY i found the joke funny... It might be why i have a knee jerk impulse to argue with people online about it though

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Then you lead everyone through all this semantic bull**** where you deflect away from your original point propelling transphobia to something more innocuous while framing your inability to understand a point as evidence against it in order to make the idea you're rejecting seem nonsensical.

wut?

**Frownland** · 10-11-2021, 03:47 AM

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Transphobia is relatively light hearted and benign.

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~~jwb~~ · 10-11-2021, 03:49 AM

Damn... You really got me bruv

10-11-2021, 01:29 AM	#1142 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	...to be fair in other words you went back to read and see i was right as usual. Backpedaling what exactly? Tell me what you think i think is funny about the joke. Tell me what dave is even saying with the joke that i "agree" with. You doing all this interrogating go ahead and tell me the right answer and we can discuss that instead

10-11-2021, 03:49 AM	#1150 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Damn... You really got me bruv