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tdoc210 · 08-17-2005, 01:20 PM

i think us americans should have too speak the language of the native american tribe in the area that we've taken over i live in america and im not proud i mean f.uck america were evil controlling and arrogant we drive out millions of indians just so we can modernize. and then of course our nations presidents have sent them into camps, sent smallpox diseased blankets to them to kill them off.the indians have the most right to live here than us. i say screw america give it back to the indians and the world would be better off with out our country

adidasss · 08-17-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism

i think us americans should have too speak the language of the native american tribe in the area that we've taken over i live in america and im not proud i mean f.uck america were evil controlling and arrogant we drive out millions of indians just so we can modernize. and then of course our nations presidents have sent them into camps, sent smallpox diseased blankets to them to kill them off.

the same thing has been done in both americas aswell as australia and new zealand, i think that central and south america ( except brasil ) were just lucky they had a much bigger indian population, that's why their culture survived ( Peru even has the indian language as an official language! ), also toledo was the first indian to be elected president in Peru, the indians ( or native americans , which ever way you prefer it ) are coming back in style, also, watch out, i hear the population of native americans in the US is growing steadily so watch out!
also, about the language thing, i think sikoholickkouboi's opinion is only valid when it comes to immigrants, i don't think that the indigenous minorities should learn how to speak the language of the majority ( the indians in mexico for example, the basks in spain and so forth....)

KiKi66 · 08-17-2005, 01:43 PM

When Europeans came to North America did they learn the Native American language? My point is this-- what ever population is dominant, their language will be spoken. The Hispanic population is dominant in several parts of the US now. Wishing can't make it different. It would be a good idea for all of us to learn to speak Spanish if we want to be working 20 years from now...

SATCHMO · 08-17-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KiKi66

When Europeans came to North America did they learn the Native American language? My point is this-- what ever population is dominant, their language will be spoken. The Hispanic population is dominant in several parts of the US now. Wishing can't make it different. It would be a good idea for all of us to learn to speak Spanish if we want to be working 20 years from now...

Well said.

MORESOAD4ME · 08-17-2005, 04:49 PM

well im half hispanic, my dad came to america, legally, from colombia wen he was 4 or 5, and evry single person in his family learned to speak english, a lot of his family came here... BUT i dun think that evry immigrant should learn to speak english, if they wanna learn they should learn, but if they dun who cares, its there problem, pretty soon the minority will be whitey...

sikoholickkouboi · 08-17-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MORESOAD4ME

well im half hispanic, my dad came to america, legally, from colombia wen he was 4 or 5, and evry single person in his family learned to speak english, a lot of his family came here... BUT i dun think that evry immigrant should learn to speak english, if they wanna learn they should learn, but if they dun who cares, its there problem, pretty soon the minority will be whitey...

Yes, well most BLACKS here speak ENGLISH, too, today. It's not just a "white thing", it's a popular language thing. So, you don't think immigrants to OTHER nations shouldn't bother to learn the language as newcomers or does this JUST apply to America? We'll just have to disagree here, I guess. I think you're blinded by your rage against "the white man". Newsflash. Just because the powerful ones have f*cked things up, not ALL of us (esp. mid-to-lower class) are bad. If you wanna say "whitey" because of slaveowners and Nazis and history, you can say "n!ggers" because of gangbanging pimps and friendly neighborhood drug dealers. Ignorant stereotypes apply to ALL races. I wouldn't piss on a country that let me get away with so much **** on a silver platter like the Mexicans do, though. So, you hate whitey (sorry about some **** before I was born that I had nothing to do with and can't change- oh yeah- skin color don't link me to those idiots, so NO I DON'T!) "Do it for the BLACK English speaking Americans" then. LOL.

tdoc210 · 08-17-2005, 04:55 PM

^ haha im gonna move to fu,cking canada cause i hate america

sikoholickkouboi · 08-17-2005, 08:27 PM

And regardless of whether you think immigrants should learn the new language of wherever, I think that AMERICA shouldn't cater to anyone who doesn't give a damn about the country. So, some of you just wanna bitch about what's wrong with America. If they're against it, they could help the liberals here FIGHT for change if they just learned the language. I'm not saying it should be a necessity for every immigrant to learn (though they should if they're gonna live here), but when so many come here just to rape the system and basically be anti-social and not contribute anything, we shouldn't cater to or encourage them so much to keep coming and going. No special treatment is all I'm saying.

sikoholickkouboi · 08-17-2005, 08:30 PM

Noone said anything about my comment on Asians. There are MANY Asians here too. Why are we not catering to them, too?

adidasss · 08-18-2005, 02:04 AM

i think you have a lot of surpressed anger , for someone living in such a culturaly diverse country you have a lot of problems with a lot of races and nationalities....and i think it's fairly obvious, despite your PC retoric, that you are a frustrated white surpremasist....

08-17-2005, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,608	i think us americans should have too speak the language of the native american tribe in the area that we've taken over i live in america and im not proud i mean f.uck america were evil controlling and arrogant we drive out millions of indians just so we can modernize. and then of course our nations presidents have sent them into camps, sent smallpox diseased blankets to them to kill them off.the indians have the most right to live here than us. i say screw america give it back to the indians and the world would be better off with out our country __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

08-17-2005, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
KiKi66 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 0	Face reality! When Europeans came to North America did they learn the Native American language? My point is this-- what ever population is dominant, their language will be spoken. The Hispanic population is dominant in several parts of the US now. Wishing can't make it different. It would be a good idea for all of us to learn to speak Spanish if we want to be working 20 years from now...

08-17-2005, 04:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
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08-17-2005, 04:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,608	^ haha im gonna move to fu,cking canada cause i hate america __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

08-18-2005, 02:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,945	i think you have a lot of surpressed anger , for someone living in such a culturaly diverse country you have a lot of problems with a lot of races and nationalities....and i think it's fairly obvious, despite your PC retoric, that you are a frustrated white surpremasist.... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

08-17-2005, 08:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
sikoholickkouboi Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31	And regardless of whether you think immigrants should learn the new language of wherever, I think that AMERICA shouldn't cater to anyone who doesn't give a damn about the country. So, some of you just wanna bitch about what's wrong with America. If they're against it, they could help the liberals here FIGHT for change if they just learned the language. I'm not saying it should be a necessity for every immigrant to learn (though they should if they're gonna live here), but when so many come here just to rape the system and basically be anti-social and not contribute anything, we shouldn't cater to or encourage them so much to keep coming and going. No special treatment is all I'm saying.

08-17-2005, 08:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
sikoholickkouboi Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31	Noone said anything about my comment on Asians. There are MANY Asians here too. Why are we not catering to them, too?