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Old 08-17-2005, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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dude i dont think it really matters/is something you should get that worked up about... if people dont want to learn, thats their problem, it doesnt affect you... its not like youre the one who cant understand people when theyre talking to you... i agree with urban...
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It was an ITALIAN restaurant and half to a 2/3 of the people DIDN'T speak Spanish. Just certain employees. That would be EVERYONE ELSE accomodating and working around them, the way I see it. I see too much of this. If we're to cater to any immigrants, why not Asian immigrants? My brother told me that even other Mexicans have told him the following, which is the difference between most other immigrants and Mexican immigrants. Most other immigrants try to either BE part of or contribute something to society. Most of the Mexicans don't really give a DAMN to be here, and still have family back home whom they're sending money back to. They're just here to temporarily take advantage and, in my opinion, should have EQUAL TAXATION as the rest of us. And they're at the top of the list to who we're catering to why again? Not to sound pissy, but if they care so little about us, why do we treat them so special? That's my beef.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not to blame them for taking advantage. I'd do THE SAME THING in their shoes, as far as the money goes (though I'd have a little respect for those that gave me such opportunities). I just don't think America should let this continue.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not to blame them for taking advantage. I'd do THE SAME THING in their shoes, as far as the money goes (though I'd have a little respect for those that gave me such opportunities). I just don't think America should let this continue.
Yeah because all Americans are hard working & honest too, right ?
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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^totally agree. bush pays lip service to protecting our borders, but when it comes to mexico hes all buddy buddy w/vicente fox(mexico's president) for some reason. im a bush supporter, but he has definitely fallen short on this issue.
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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^totally agree. bush pays lip service to protecting our borders, but when it comes to mexico hes all buddy buddy w/vicente fox(mexico's president) for some reason. im a bush supporter, but he has definitely fallen short on this issue.
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^ far too true.

I have plenty of Spanish friends. They have come here legally and are currently learning English and adopting American customs while at the same time exposing me to Mexican, el Salvadorian, and Columbian culture. that's how it should be.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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^ far too true.

I have plenty of Spanish friends. They have come here legally and are currently learning English and adopting American customs while at the same time exposing me to Mexican, el Salvadorian, and Columbian culture. that's how it should be.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Americans are a bunch of arrogant elitist pigs. Did we care what language that Mexicans spoke when we stole a large portion of their country away from them and made it ours. Some of you act like English is the indigenous language of this country. There's not a Mexican alive that doesn't have more of a right to be here than any so-called American does.
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Americans are a bunch of arrogant elitist pigs. Did we care what language that Mexicans spoke when we stole a large portion of their country away from them and made it ours. Some of you act like English is the indigenous language of this country. There's not a Mexican alive that doesn't have more of a right to be here than any so-called American does.
Elitist pigs? Generalize much? I hate Bush and the stereotypical average dumb American and ignorance as much as many and am liberal in many views (more in the middle actually). I even would have rather died as a "race traitor" with the Indians had I lived way back then, and still died with self-respect. Truth be told, I'm all for a universal language, but until that happens, it should be seen as a sign of respect to know at least enough to converse with what the majority of the nation speaks as a common language in most businesses and public places. If many Americans moved to France, and somehow figured a way to milk the system, but wanted no part in being "multicultural" or learning anything about them or their country even including enough French language to just say a few things, I would most definitely not expect them to start kissing our @sses (we'd be demonified). How come we never see "English or Japanese?" questions anywhere since they at least try to fit in more often or act like they give a damn to AND usually don't come here illegally?

Regardless of America's f*cked up pastEnglish may as well be an indigenous language here, like Spanish would be in their home nation. Many Mexicans and even many other non-Mexican minorities come here and learn at least that much. If they are a tourist, it's different, otherwise they should be treated as EQUAL citizens including taxation. I would like to see the Native Americans be given back a lot more than what they have. And I never said that Mexicans didn't have as much right to be here. Just learn to communicate with people like say, me, if you are going to live and work here. Be multicultural. I'd have no problem, the other way around, whatsoever.

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i don't think that the indigenous minorities should learn how to speak the language of the majority
I fully agree there. I just meant immigrants to "foreign lands", though.
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