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Old 07-29-2018, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't think race should be evoked. I think race should be one of MANY things evoked, because just being white is not the only reason that white people have "white privilege" in America. Pretty sure Batlord just finished explaining that to you.

Like I said before, majority privilege + tribalism + a whole lotta history and nuance..
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Old 07-29-2018, 05:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think race should be evoked. I think race should be one of MANY things evoked, because just being white is not the only reason that white people have white privilege in America. Pretty sure Batlord just finished explaining that to you.

Like I said before, majority privilege + tribalism + a whole lotta history and nuance..
You literally just contradicted yourself, more so poorly worded that statement.

What's being ignored is that lower class white people aren't facing the same discrimination as lower class black people. They are not being unfairly judged based on race, they are not being targeted by police like black people, they are not being as harshly judged over crimes as black people, etc. So while classism is a problem in this country that needs to be addressed, it's not as strong as the racial bias.

Edit: and majority of the population isn't upper class so that defeats your 'majority privilege' argument as well.
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I think you're just reading what you want at this point. Good talk.
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I think you're just reading what you want at this point. Good talk.
What am I skipping over?
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My point, mostly.
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My point, mostly.
Which one?

Edit: What exact bit of writing do you think I'm not addressing or that I'm ignoring?
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I think the point is that DWV doesn't disagree with white privilege, he disagrees with the term. You're all just arguing with a strawman like morons. Way to not make our side look like triggered ***gots.
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I think the point is that DWV doesn't disagree with white privilege, he disagrees with the term. You're all just arguing with a strawman like morons. Way to not make our side look like triggered ***gots.
He disagrees with the term because he thinks white privilege refers to a tribal majority bias which also causes classism when it's just a symptom of it. But white privilege, while it definitely has strong ties with classism and is an over all symptom of the flaws of our current state of capitalism, is not referring to classism, it's specifically referring to the biases America has based on race. Which leans towards whites. Which goes beyond classism. So renaming an issue of a certain race having a bias in their favor to something that tries to obscure the idea it's based on race is dishonest.

It's like trying to rename 'white supremacists' 'racial supremacists' because using the word 'white' makes him uncomfortable. Hell, maybe he does think the phrase 'white supremacist' is race baiting too. I don't know.
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