Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

^Yeah, that's fine until you start having a discussion with people not from the US. The term white privilege in a global discussion or forum with people from quite a few different places in the world is pretty silly.



Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

But the fact that I carefully made a point to clarify "in america" with my points over rides your nit picking argument on the terminology.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'd vote for Trump

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

No. What the hell kind of argument is that.. If I move from a bad neighborhood to one where everyone is chill as **** and I don't even need to lock my doors does that mean I have some sort of privilege in the new happy place? or are the people just better human beings?

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

That has nothing to do with anything so I'll just ask you again if you've ever honestly looked into the idea of white privilege without actively trying to disprove it or just watching Youtube videos of people who are trying to disprove it.

If you think that nobody has ever given you a good explanation of white privilege and why it exists then it might be because it's an abstract concept that's very hard to point to with a smoking gun. So maybe you should seek the information and opinions out yourself instead of declaring victory over a concept that is very easy to denigrate by people who have a vested interest in nitpicking it (i.e. white people who don't want to feel guilty about anything).

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

It's a stupid term.. it implies that white people as a whole have a distinct advantage and all the arguments use specific examples. There is nothing inherently advantageous about being white skinned. It is entirely dependent on where you live. So why not be clear and discuss how white americans have privileges over other minority americans instead of using some lame race baiting generalization? That's really what you mean when you use the term.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Because they dominated the battlefields historically? Where does white privilege exist where whites are the minority?

There is a difference between someone with money being able to have privilege over the poor and a societal structure where if your white you have a better chance of succeeding within it.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I understand it's not specific, but if we just called it "majority privilege" nobody would care. For better or worse "white privilege" has people talking and it's because the race with privilege is being called out and it's accomplishing things. The people open to the phrase are talking, the people offended are talking, and in general the basic idea is entering the public consciousness in a way that it wouldn't if it were more general. I think this will accomplish far more in the long run than using some boring phrase nobody in society will ever actually care or even hear about.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'd vote for Trump

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yup, just shows how much progress we still have to make when we can't talk about the reality of problems without using race baiting language and dramatic terms.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.