So, do I belong here or not?

**Frownland** · 07-29-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yes I can. Everywhere that white people are not the majority.

You think the son or daughter of some random white family in Mexico has some societal advantage over all the Mexicans? Like they're going to higher them because they are white?

You don't know much about Mexico do you

Lucem Ferre · 07-29-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yes I can. Everywhere that white people are not the majority.

You think the son or daughter of some random white family in Mexico has some societal advantage over all the Mexicans? Like they're going to higher them because they are white?

Do you think they face disadvantages? Like they won't hire them because they are white?

I think a lot of this is based on an assumption, so if you can I would like you to provide a source of information that supports the idea that whites face as much discrimination.

DwnWthVwls · 07-29-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

white privilege exists in European countries

That's fine. I really don't know enough about the culture, but youre probably right. That doesn't really address my point though.

DwnWthVwls · 07-29-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Do you think they face disadvantages? Like they won't hire them because they are white?

I think a lot of this is based on an assumption, so if you can I would like you to provide a source of information that supports the idea that whites face as much discrimination.

I didn't say they face disadvantages I'm not in a position to make that claim, but I can say with some level of confidence they don't have advantages over the natives just because they are white. I can do some research on stats and get back to you, but I think youre making a pretty foolish argument and being deliberately dense.

DwnWthVwls · 07-29-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You don't know much about Mexico do you

Okay, fine.. Uganda than, I mean seriously, being nitpicky to avoid addressing the bigger picture of the argument is pretty boring. Or perhaps Iraq? or Cuba? Take your pick.

Lucem Ferre · 07-29-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I didn't say they face disadvantages I'm not in a position to make that claim, but I can say with some level of confidence they don't have advantages over the natives just because they are white. I can do some research on stats and get back to you, but I think your making a pretty foolish argument and being deliberately dense.

So you don't think whites not facing the same discrimination that they put onto other races where they are the majority when they are a minority is not a form of privilege in it's self?

**Frownland** · 07-29-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Okay, fine.. Uganda than, I mean seriously, being nitpicky to avoid addressing the bigger picture of the argument is pretty boring.

Oh, the irony.

The Batlord · 07-29-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That's fine. I really don't know enough about the culture, but youre probably right. That doesn't really address my point though.

I mentioned this in my post by I guess I got ninja'd. Preference for the local majority is going to exist everywhere, but we're crackers in the West and we have no influence on the Middle East or Far East or Africa, so we talk about our own area that we can influence in terms we can understand, hence, White Privilege. It is important to use "White" with privilege because we are talking about an area of the world where whites have privilege.

DwnWthVwls · 07-29-2018, 06:04 PM

^Yeah, that's fine until you start having a discussion with people not from the US. The term white privilege in a global discussion or forum with people from quite a few different places in the world is pretty silly.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'd imagine the same idea would apply in different forms to Europeans. I'd need more information to talk about their reality but it's not a mentality that's specific to Americans, it's specific to every race in every country on Earth. I imagine there's a version of White Privilege that applies to China but it would probably be called Han Privilege. And why fight the terminology when the idea is what is important, especially when the idea itself is being fought simply on the basis of terminology by whites? I don't see you fighting for the idea but also talking about terminology, I see you simply talking about the terminology. This is why it is important to specify "White", because the race in question needs to be confronted.

Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

DwnWthVwls · 07-29-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

So you don't think whites not facing the same discrimination that they put onto other races where they are the majority when they are a minority is not a form of privilege in it's self?

No. What the hell kind of argument is that.. If I move from a bad neighborhood to one where everyone is chill as **** and I don't even need to lock my doors does that mean I have some sort of privilege in the new happy place? or are the people just better human beings?

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