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DwnWthVwls 07-29-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1981791)
white privilege exists in European countries

That's fine. I really don't know enough about the culture, but youre probably right. That doesn't really address my point though.

DwnWthVwls 07-29-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1981798)
Do you think they face disadvantages? Like they won't hire them because they are white?

I think a lot of this is based on an assumption, so if you can I would like you to provide a source of information that supports the idea that whites face as much discrimination.

I didn't say they face disadvantages I'm not in a position to make that claim, but I can say with some level of confidence they don't have advantages over the natives just because they are white. I can do some research on stats and get back to you, but I think youre making a pretty foolish argument and being deliberately dense.

DwnWthVwls 07-29-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1981797)
You don't know much about Mexico do you

Okay, fine.. Uganda than, I mean seriously, being nitpicky to avoid addressing the bigger picture of the argument is pretty boring. Or perhaps Iraq? or Cuba? Take your pick.

Lucem Ferre 07-29-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1981802)
I didn't say they face disadvantages I'm not in a position to make that claim, but I can say with some level of confidence they don't have advantages over the natives just because they are white. I can do some research on stats and get back to you, but I think your making a pretty foolish argument and being deliberately dense.

So you don't think whites not facing the same discrimination that they put onto other races where they are the majority when they are a minority is not a form of privilege in it's self?

Frownland 07-29-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1981804)
Okay, fine.. Uganda than, I mean seriously, being nitpicky to avoid addressing the bigger picture of the argument is pretty boring.

Oh, the irony.

The Batlord 07-29-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1981799)
That's fine. I really don't know enough about the culture, but youre probably right. That doesn't really address my point though.

I mentioned this in my post by I guess I got ninja'd. Preference for the local majority is going to exist everywhere, but we're crackers in the West and we have no influence on the Middle East or Far East or Africa, so we talk about our own area that we can influence in terms we can understand, hence, White Privilege. It is important to use "White" with privilege because we are talking about an area of the world where whites have privilege.

DwnWthVwls 07-29-2018 05:04 PM

^Yeah, that's fine until you start having a discussion with people not from the US. The term white privilege in a global discussion or forum with people from quite a few different places in the world is pretty silly.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1981796)
I'd imagine the same idea would apply in different forms to Europeans. I'd need more information to talk about their reality but it's not a mentality that's specific to Americans, it's specific to every race in every country on Earth. I imagine there's a version of White Privilege that applies to China but it would probably be called Han Privilege. And why fight the terminology when the idea is what is important, especially when the idea itself is being fought simply on the basis of terminology by whites? I don't see you fighting for the idea but also talking about terminology, I see you simply talking about the terminology. This is why it is important to specify "White", because the race in question needs to be confronted.

Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

DwnWthVwls 07-29-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1981805)
So you don't think whites not facing the same discrimination that they put onto other races where they are the majority when they are a minority is not a form of privilege in it's self?

No. What the hell kind of argument is that.. If I move from a bad neighborhood to one where everyone is chill as **** and I don't even need to lock my doors does that mean I have some sort of privilege in the new happy place? or are the people just better human beings?

The Batlord 07-29-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1981809)
^Yeah, that's fine until you start having a discussion with people not from the US. The term white privilege in a global discussion or forum with people from quite a few different places in the world is pretty silly.



Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

We're not talking to Chinese people. We're talking to white or Western people. If you can point out a Chinese or Ugandan person in this discussion to me then we can have words and those words will be "Well we're really not talking to you, but we can figure out a phrase in a moment."

Lucem Ferre 07-29-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1981809)
Yeah I thought I made it clear that I'm not denying the idea.. It's the terminology I don't like, which is all I've said.

But the fact that I carefully made a point to clarify "in america" with my points over rides your nit picking argument on the terminology.


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