Not a fan of Buffy, then? Carnivale? Supernatural? Lucifer? Conan? Pratchett?
grindy
07-11-2018 12:23 PM
Who?
Frownland
07-11-2018 12:25 PM
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Get ****ed by tentacles.
Back on the dork train.
grindy
07-11-2018 12:27 PM
Artfully, though.
MicShazam
07-11-2018 12:31 PM
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Whenever MicShazam says he doesn't like something awesome I find myself wondering which neurotic obsession caused by a repressed childhood trauma that is going unmedicated is causing him to think so wrongly this time.
It's a shame I'm not aiming to be a troll, because I'd be a damned good one.
I've never seen an ep or read a book, I've already dedicated enough time listening to people recommend it to me ad noxious.
It's like what you imagine it is, only there's like, a LOT of it.
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I'm here to make you dorks artful.
Seen the movie. Was weird.
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You're dead to me. Again.
Does it make it better if I say that I considered staying for the tits?
The Batlord
07-11-2018 12:32 PM
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Horror? Yes. Sci-fi? Yes. Fantasy? Hell no.
Just don't read "sword and sorcery dragons and elf bitches" fantasy then. It's a creatively stagnant field of literature that's been stagnant for almost as long as it's existed and has only gotten more self-indulgent since D&D corrupted our youth. The only reason to read it is if you're into escapism for the sake of escapism. (And yes, fellow fantasy dorks, I'm also talking about Game of Thrones cause it's just the emperor's new clothes in less cringy fashion.)
Just don't read "sword and sorcery dragons and elf bitches" fantasy then. It's a creatively stagnant field of literature that's been stagnant for almost as long as it's existed and has only gotten more self-indulgent since D&D corrupted our youth. The only reason to read it is if you're into escapism for the sake of escapism. (And yes, fellow fantasy dorks, I'm also talking about Game of Thrones cause it's just the emperor's new clothes in less cringy fashion.)
Yeah, and then the "good stuff" keeps playing around with and twisting the tropes. Ugly elves and huge dwarves and ****. Hi-****ing-larious.
But I was obviously being facetious, I'm sure there's some great fantasy out there, but tendentially it still gets owned by sci-fi like a little bitch.
And Clive Barker bores me. A short story or novella here and there is fine, he's really good at telling genuinely gruesome ****. But he gets tiresome fast.
The Batlord
07-11-2018 12:51 PM
I wasn't talking about fantasy that messes with tropes cause that's the same damn thing with a fresh coat of paint to convince fans and the author themselves that they're not just dealing in glorified Warhammer. There's actual fantasy that uses the supernatural in much the same way as sci fi to build a world based on concepts that are in service to the story and not just theater dressing passed down from one book to the next.
Unfortunately I'm drawing a blank at least on books whose titles I can remember since I haven't been reading fantasy in years and was reading the sword and sorcery variety for the most part. Google is also unhelpful since fantasy fans are by and large the same and I'm not sure how to narrow down the search without getting yet another "TOP 10 LIST OF THE BEST LOTR RIPOFFS!!!"
Trollheart
07-11-2018 01:01 PM
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Who?
Sigh
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Does it make it better if I say that I considered staying for the tits?
I wouldn't think you would have had much of a wait.
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Just don't read "sword and sorcery dragons and elf bitches" fantasy then. It's a creatively stagnant field of literature that's been stagnant for almost as long as it's existed and has only gotten more self-indulgent since D&D corrupted our youth. The only reason to read it is if you're into escapism for the sake of escapism. (And yes, fellow fantasy dorks, I'm also talking about Game of Thrones cause it's just the emperor's new clothes in less cringy fashion.)
Barker's more horror though. And that's where it gets confusing, because where do you draw the line? Sure, sci-fi is sci-fi, and usually there's no argument there. Even steampunk is sci-fi. But horror and fantasy tend to meld a lot in my experience. "Interview with the Vampire" is undoubtedly horror, but with some fantasy elements. Much of Barker's stuff, I definitely agree, can straddle both genres. Brian Lumley's Necroscope series is almost all three melded.
Then there's Koontz... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...light_Eyes.jpg
The Batlord
02-22-2020 01:51 PM
Oh snap looks like there's actually gonna be a Wheel of Time TV series on Amazon. I'm fascinated and amused wondering how they'll adapt the rather... fraught gender dynamics of the series. I mean one of the main plot points is there being no male magic users cause they all go crazy and so the women magic users castrate their magic. Should be a hoot.
