Today I Learned...

OccultHawk · 06-06-2019, 02:33 PM

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Moving from a spread out populace to more condensed population centers=/=increasing the population

I get that and I understand the advantages of curbing urban sprawl.

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The latter's gonna happen whether you're spread out or stacked on top of each other.

Unfortunately you’re right about that. It’s sad that we can’t collectively decide to protect the world’s biodiversity but that’s the way it is. Everyone thinks they should be allowed to shower the world with their DNA unchecked by culture or government. Who cares that once we crash the tipping point there’s no coming back? Let’s blame it on greed instead of need so we can pretend the problem only exists in the places we don’t like.

Lucem Ferre · 06-06-2019, 02:39 PM

I don't want my DNA out there. I'm not heavy into eugenics but my genes are totally tainted. At least not until we learn how to properly treat mental illness. And I'm definitely not going to have my hand in ****ing up a child by raising it.

Anteater · 06-06-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

San Antonio is the fastest growing big city in the country in terms of population

North Texas can see deez nuts

plus Houston and Austin >>>>

Houston lol...oh boy.

I needed a good laugh today. Thank you.

Lucem Ferre · 06-06-2019, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Houston lol...oh boy.

I needed a good laugh today. Thank you.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2019, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's like the art epicenter of Texas

Ja but those artists are POOR. Checkmate, liberals!

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It’s sad that we can’t collectively decide to protect the world’s biodiversity

Let's say we could, what would the most feasible approach be?

OccultHawk · 06-06-2019, 03:15 PM

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Let's say we could, what would the most feasible approach be?
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Thank you for allowing the conversation to move on.

Reward voluntary sterilization world wide. Culturally stigmatize pregnancy and child birth. Make heterosexual intercourse taboo. Admit there’s a problem.

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my argument is that "overpopulation" is just an out when it comes to shifting towards sustainability

That’s like saying objecting to the private automobile is just an out when it comes to dealing with traffic. It’s as if you don’t understand that humans have to consume to survive. It’s ****ing shocking. What must be sustained? Human populations and the ecosystems we interact and share the world with. How could population be a non-issue when it comes to sustaining the population?

OccultHawk · 06-06-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

how can one be so insistent on being an anarchist, yet be for forced sterilization and strong borders

who is going to carry out this population control? the gov that would do best to kill itself?

My politics have nothing to do with overpopulation being the problem. I can’t change reality to fit my utopian vision. If there’s a problem that isn’t solved through anarchism it doesn’t go away just because I’m an anarchist.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2019, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Thank you for allowing the conversation to move on.

Reward voluntary sterilization world wide. Culturally stigmatize pregnancy and child birth. Make heterosexual intercourse taboo. Admit there’s a problem.

Wouldn't that incentivization lead to sterilization on class lines pretty much 100% of the time?

I'd say that mandating sustainable agricultural practices and moving from fossil fuels to nuclear power is the most practical approach for reducing human impact on biodiversity without compromising on ethics. Sustainable forms of energy are good but typically take up a lot of land which would be counterintuitive for this problem. That's not to say that overpopulation isn't a big player in all of this of course.

DwnWthVwls · 06-06-2019, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

Today I learned how Greeks got their knowledge from Egypt of masonry, and now im learning about the opera called "Carmen" gotta answers questions about the opera, which means i actually will spend time watching an opera..

Opera is sweet.. dont hate

OccultHawk · 06-06-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

we consume far more than we need to on an individual level

to use the traffic analogy, far more people own cars than what could be necessary with investment in public transit

I 100% agree. There’s two things we definitely need to do: 1) Limit the amount we consume as individuals and 2) limit the number of individuals doing the consuming.