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The Batlord 05-09-2018 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948805)
A) I'm not British as you well know
B) It's "talk well" (yes yes that was the joke I know ha ha bloody ha)
C) It's what it's damn-well called, because the owner has a licence to sell beers off the premises, unlike a pub, where the alcohol is meant to be consumed there.
All businesses have licenses.

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You ****in' Americans. What do you call them? Liquor stores I guess.
Yes, because that is what they sell.

OccultHawk 05-09-2018 10:51 AM
The people have voted me mod.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1948808)
All businesses have licenses.
But with alcohol, only pubs can sell it, unless you run an off-licence, in which case you're licensed to .... ah, why am I bothering? You're getting so like Frownland it's concerning me. You're just not listening.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1948809)
The people have voted me mod.
I suspect Russian involvement.

Frownland 05-09-2018 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948828)
But with alcohol, only pubs can sell it, unless you run an off-licence, in which case you're licensed to .... ah, why am I bothering?
Why not just liquor store though? That's already differentiated from the pub. Unless...do you guys call restaurants food stores in Ireland?

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You're getting so like Frownland it's concerning me. You're just not listening.
Ja, quit being so intelligent and sexy, Batface, you're cramping my style.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1948830)
Why not just liquor store though? That's already differentiated from the pub. Unless...do you guys call restaurants food stores in Ireland?
Seriously? First of all, we don't use the word "liquor". It's "spirits" for anything like vodka, gin, whiskey etc. We do use "liqueur", but that's another thing. Also, we don't use store, but shop. So it would be a spirit shop, which might just sound, hmmm, weird. I reckon it's also to do with licencing laws, so that you can sell beer after hours or before the pubs open. Hell if I know: I don't really drink. But there are off-licences all over here and I assume UK too.

Point of fact, restaurants we call restaurants, smaller ones cafes, the Brits sometimes call them "caffs" (you probably say diner) and then there are the Italian Bistros, which, oddly, we call bistros.
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Ja, quit being so intelligent and sexy, Batface, you're cramping my style.
Every day I die a little more inside.

Frownland 05-09-2018 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948871)
Seriously? First of all, we don't use the word "liquor". It's "spirits" for anything like vodka, gin, whiskey etc. We do use "liqueur", but that's another thing. Also, we don't use store, but shop. So it would be a spirit shop, which might just sound, hmmm, weird. I reckon it's also to do with licencing laws, so that you can sell beer after hours or before the pubs open. Hell if I know: I don't really drink. But there are off-licences all over here and I assume UK too.
There are all kinds of licenses in America, so off-license sounds weird to us. Just call it a Local Alcohol Distribution Center like a normal person.

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Point of fact, restaurants we call restaurants, smaller ones cafes, the Brits sometimes call them "caffs" (you probably say diner) and then there are the Italian Bistros, which, oddly, we call bistros.

Every day I die a little more inside.
So what do you call pubs and why do you need to distinguish them from stores?

The Batlord 05-09-2018 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948871)
Seriously? First of all, we don't use the word "liquor". It's "spirits" for anything like vodka, gin, whiskey etc. We do use "liqueur", but that's another thing. Also, we don't use store, but shop. So it would be a spirit shop, which might just sound, hmmm, weird. I reckon it's also to do with licencing laws, so that you can sell beer after hours or before the pubs open. Hell if I know: I don't really drink. But there are off-licences all over here and I assume UK too.

Point of fact, restaurants we call restaurants, smaller ones cafes, the Brits sometimes call them "caffs" (you probably say diner) and then there are the Italian Bistros, which, oddly, we call bistros.

Every day I die a little more inside.
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Cuthbert 05-09-2018 02:45 PM
Yes Trolls we have them.

I call them off licenses too.

Some call them offies, for short.

The Sikhs usually run them here and they are great guys, well most of them are one of them was an old cunt but he's sold up now. Over the past few years, the Sikhs have been selling food in the shop too. It's usually snack food like pakoras, samosas and that sort of thing, they make it in the shop. I like it a lot and think it was about time.

Cuthbert 05-09-2018 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1948883)
So what do you call pubs and why do you need to distinguish them from stores?
You drink, eat, play music, watch the sport, play pool or darts in them. They're a 'public house'.

You can't do any of that in an off license other than purchase items then leave.

Frownland 05-09-2018 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1948912)
You drink, eat, play music, watch the sport, play pool or darts in them. They're a 'public house'.

You can't do any of that in an off license other than purchase items then leave.
Exactly, quite different places that you wouldn't get mixed up unless you hella misspoke, so why differentiate based on licensing? Or like I asked earlier, are there so many unlicensed places that you guys had to start making the licensing part of the nomenclature?

Trollheart 05-09-2018 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1948883)
There are all kinds of licenses in America, so off-license sounds weird to us. Just call it a Local Alcohol Distribution Center like a normal person.
Think of it like this: it's an abbreviation of "Licenced to Sell Alchohol That Can Be Taken Off the Premises."

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So what do you call pubs and why do you need to distinguish them from stores?
Boozers, pubs. And we distinguish them from stores because a) stores isn't a word used here and b) they're seen more as a place to gather and shoot the breeze, as Monkey says, rather than a place you go to buy something. In most stores, or shops, you go in, buy what you want and head off. You don't hang around. That's the difference. In a pub, you do. You stay, with your purchases. You in fact have to, as they're not licenced, as I said, to sell alcohol that can be taken off the premises.

Frownland 05-09-2018 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948918)
a) stores isn't a word used here
Shop or commissary or whatever you use then.

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b) they're seen more as a place to gather and shoot the breeze, as Monkey says, rather than a place you go to buy something. In most stores, or shops, you go in, buy what you want and head off. You don't hang around. That's the difference. In a pub, you do. You stay, with your purchases. You in fact have to, as they're not licenced, as I said, to sell alcohol that can be taken off the premises.
Does this imply that you don't need a license to serve alcohol so long as it's kept on site?

Also, like I said earlier, why do you need to differentiate them like that? They're very clearly different in the same way that a petting zoo and a pet supply store are.

The Batlord 05-09-2018 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948918)
Think of it like this: it's an abbreviation of "Licenced to Sell Alchohol That Can Be Taken Off the Premises."



Boozers, pubs. And we distinguish them from stores because a) stores isn't a word used here and b) they're seen more as a place to gather and shoot the breeze, as Monkey says, rather than a place you go to buy something. In most stores, or shops, you go in, buy what you want and head off. You don't hang around. That's the difference. In a pub, you do. You stay, with your purchases. You in fact have to, as they're not licenced, as I said, to sell alcohol that can be taken off the premises.
So "liquor store/spirit shop" would be a much more descriptive term that wouldn't be confusing to anyone not from Britain.

Frownland 05-09-2018 03:05 PM
UK slang is like if American slang ****ed its cousins.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-09-2018 03:06 PM
uk slang >>>>>>>

Cuthbert 05-09-2018 03:10 PM
I dunno Frown I just jumped into the discussion without reading all the way through.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1948928)
I dunno Frown I just jumped into the discussion without reading all the way through.
He's just being the usual knob. Ignore him. Not worth it. America thinks everything should be done its way, even though they're only a few hundred years old. :rolleyes:

Frownland 05-09-2018 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948932)
He's just being the usual knob. Ignore him. Not worth it. America thinks everything should be done its way, even though they're only a few hundred years old. :rolleyes:
I just think that etymology is interesting you self-centred fuck.

Cuthbert 05-09-2018 03:23 PM
lol at Frown's post, actually edited it to put that insult in.

The Batlord 05-09-2018 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1948932)
He's just being the usual knob. Ignore him. Not worth it. America thinks everything should be done its way, even though they're only a few hundred years old. :rolleyes:
I don't think there are any Americans who've been alive for much longer than a century tbh.

Oriphiel 05-09-2018 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1948924)
UK slang is like if American slang ****ed its cousins.
I.e. Drink driving

Trollheart 05-09-2018 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1948933)
I just think that etymology is interesting you self-centred fuck.
Ban this man! Insulting behaviour! Read the rules!!!
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1948936)
lol at Frown's post, actually edited it to put that insult in.
Can dish it out but can't take it huh? Typical American.
They do make a charming couple though, don't they? Wherever there is controversy to be stirred up, controversy that nobody is interested in, they'll be there. Wherever there's a cheap joke to be had, they'll be there. Wherever Americans think they're better than everyone else, they'll be there!

FROWNMAN AND BATBOY!
Fighting for truth, justice and the American way!

Frownland 05-09-2018 05:14 PM
Victim complexes are very unbecoming.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 05:14 PM
You know, it's odd when you think about it. All this surfaced from a pithy insult/comment from Batty which I then tried to explain. Then you, Frown, started going on about how we "should be saying this", as if you people have the right to tell everyone how to speak. I constantly explained to you WHY we say these things, never saying that YOU should, just that we do.

And I'M the self-centred one? Go **** yourself.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1949022)
Victim complexes are very unbecoming.
You're right. You should try to control that impulse a bit more. Be more Zen, you'll live longer.

Frownland 05-09-2018 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1949023)
You know, it's odd when you think about it. All this surfaced from a pithy insult/comment from Batty which I then tried to explain. Then you, Frown, started going on about how we "should be saying this", as if you people have the right to tell everyone how to speak. I constantly explained to you WHY we say these things, never saying that YOU should, just that we do.
Are you familiar with the concept of etymology?

Cuthbert 05-09-2018 05:16 PM
Thread is hotting up.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1949025)
Are you familiar with the term etymology?
Asking about the origin of the word is fine. Saying "that's stupid, you should say it this way" is not. There is a difference. Yes I know what etymology is: isn't it the study of insects or something?

See, your problem is you're ****ing arrogant. You could have just said something like "well that's interesting but we don't say that", kind of what I did. But instead you kept insisting that your way was the right way ... oh hold on, I forgot who I was talking to. You always think that way. Never mind. As I said, waste of time.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1949026)
Thread is hotting up.

:D

The Batlord 05-09-2018 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1949020)
Ban this man! Insulting behaviour! Read the rules!!!

Can dish it out but can't take it huh? Typical American.
They do make a charming couple though, don't they? Wherever there is controversy to be stirred up, controversy that nobody is interested in, they'll be there. Wherever there's a cheap joke to be had, they'll be there. Wherever Americans think they're better than everyone else, they'll be there!

FROWNMAN AND BATBOY!
Fighting for truth, justice and the American way!
Inferior yet condescending. Typical Brit.

Trollheart 05-09-2018 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1949030)
Inferior yet condescending. Typical Brit.

Black Francis 05-09-2018 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1949024)
You're right. You should try to control that impulse a bit more. Be more Zen, you'll live longer.
What did the Zen Buddhist say to the hotdog vendor?

Make me one with everything.

:bonkhead:

Frownland 05-09-2018 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1949028)
Asking about the origin of the word is fine. Saying "that's stupid, you should say it this way" is not.
Please show me where I said or realistically implied that.

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See, your problem is you're ****ing arrogant. You could have just said something like "well that's interesting but we don't say that", kind of what I did. But instead you kept insisting that your way was the right way ... oh hold on, I forgot who I was talking to. You always think that way. Never mind. As I said, waste of time.
1: I figured you were viewing it through some kind of lens that made you interpret my posts as more of an attack than I intended.
2: I actually did relate the American standards by discussing how common licensing is for virtually everything.
3: Dude, chill.

Cuthbert 05-09-2018 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1949030)
Inferior yet condescending. Typical Brit.
:eek: :D


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