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Oriphiel · 05-08-2018, 08:13 AM

Big long time.

Trollheart · 05-08-2018, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Big long time.

Long big time.

OccultHawk · 05-08-2018, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Long big time.

me love you long time

**Janszoon** · 05-08-2018, 08:38 AM

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They did. That's the point. It was on worldwide news. World. Wide. You can't get more coverage than that.

I certainly believe that it was big news in the British Isles, but I'm not sure how massive the global coverage of it was, given that multiple people in this thread hadn't heard about it.

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Lyrics: "It's a long way to Tipperary, it's a long way to go
It's a long long way to Tipperary, to the sweetest girl I know.
Goodbye Piccadilly, farewell Leicester Square
It's a long long way to Tipperary but my heart lies there."

Ok? Not familiar with the song. I'm familiar with Leicester Square because it's a famous London landmark and I have also been there.

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Like I said: cherry-picking.

I was listing everything I knew about the subject. That is the opposite of cherry picking.

Trollheart · 05-08-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I certainly believe that it was big news in the British Isles, but I'm not sure how massive the global coverage of it was, given that multiple people in this thread hadn't heard about it.

It was on every major news network - USA, Europe, Asia, you name it. It wasn't just Britain. That's the point. Anyway, that's the point. It WAS huge news. Just because you and some people here didn't hear about it doesn't mean it wasn't big news across the world. It was.

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Ok? Not familiar with the song. I'm familiar with Leicester Square because it's a famous London landmark and I have also been there.

You've never heard of it? Wow.

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I was listing everything I knew about the subject. That is the opposite of cherry picking.

No, you were only seeing it from your point of view and refusing to accept the points Monkey and I were putting forward. When you said "so Europe is the rule now is it?" that was just silly. Nobody was saying that. There's no real argument here: we're just trying to say that both can be true. Some cities evoke, in some people, the images of sports teams. Some (I would say less - what do you think of when you hear Berlin, Belgrade, Dublin or Amsterdam?) evoke images of music. We actually accept your premise but you don't seem to be accepting that ours can also be true in certain cases.

So it's not "city names always evoke sports teams", it's "sometimes they do, and sometimes it's music".

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-08-2018, 09:16 AM

As Troll says, it was on the major news networks. Same as when Chapecoense's team were killed. Maybe some people just switch off when they see its a sport story, but it was reported. It was especially big in Asia because Leicester's owners are Thai. Italy as well, because of Claudio where it was the first time an English sport story made their front page, but it shouldn't really need to be pointed out that it would have been major news in Europe.

I'm not sure if people are just unaware of the global appeal of the Premier League and assuming that because they didn't follow it, it can't be that big anywhere else.

It was the biggest sporting upset by some distance. Using betting odds (which represent the likelihood of something happening, with a bit stuck on top so the bookies can make a profit) for comparison, Tyson losing to Buster Douglas was about 25-1. MU's treble was 80-1. Leicester was 5000-1.

**Frownland** · 05-08-2018, 09:20 AM

When was this?

**Janszoon** · 05-08-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It was on every major news network - USA, Europe, Asia, you name it. It wasn't just Britain. That's the point. Anyway, that's the point. It WAS huge news. Just because you and some people here didn't hear about it doesn't mean it wasn't big news across the world. It was.

Or maybe it wasn't as big news as you think it was.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You've never heard of it? Wow.

Nope, never heard or heard of it.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

No, you were only seeing it from your point of view and refusing to accept the points Monkey and I were putting forward. When you said "so Europe is the rule now is it?" that was just silly. Nobody was saying that. There's no real argument here: we're just trying to say that both can be true. Some cities evoke, in some people, the images of sports teams. Some (I would say less - what do you think of when you hear Berlin, Belgrade, Dublin or Amsterdam?) evoke images of music. We actually accept your premise but you don't seem to be accepting that ours can also be true in certain cases.

My premise is that music can define a city as much or more than a sport. If you agree with that, I'm not actually sure why you're debating me about it.

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So it's not "city names always evoke sports teams", it's "sometimes they do, and sometimes it's music".

Which was exactly my point, a refutation of Monkey's statement that he doesn't "see how a music artist is similar tbh they don't really represent the city in the same way".

**Janszoon** · 05-08-2018, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

As Troll says, it was on the major news networks. Same as when Chapecoense's team were killed. Maybe some people just switch off when they see its a sport story, but it was reported. It was especially big in Asia because Leicester's owners are Thai. Italy as well, because of Claudio where it was the first time an English sport story made their front page, but it shouldn't really need to be pointed out that it would have been major news in Europe.

I'm not sure if people are just unaware of the global appeal of the Premier League and assuming that because they didn't follow it, it can't be that big anywhere else.

It was the biggest sporting upset by some distance. Using betting odds (which represent the likelihood of something happening, with a bit stuck on top so the bookies can make a profit) for comparison, Tyson losing to Buster Douglas was about 25-1. MU's treble was 80-1. Leicester was 5000-1.

I like how the bolded highlights my comment about how sports teams often don't have as much to do with their city as musicians who are actually from there.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-08-2018, 10:02 AM

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I like how the bolded highlights my comment about how sports teams often don't have as much to do with their city as musicians who are actually from there.

LCFC is from there

If it is formed, located and based in that city and has been for 100+ years, never moved and likely never will, and contributes massively to tourism and the local economy, employing hundreds if not thousands of local workers, how is that having less to do with that city than a musician who was just born there?

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	As Troll says, it was on the major news networks. Same as when Chapecoense's team were killed. Maybe some people just switch off when they see its a sport story, but it was reported. It was especially big in Asia because Leicester's owners are Thai. Italy as well, because of Claudio where it was the first time an English sport story made their front page, but it shouldn't really need to be pointed out that it would have been major news in Europe. I'm not sure if people are just unaware of the global appeal of the Premier League and assuming that because they didn't follow it, it can't be that big anywhere else. It was the biggest sporting upset by some distance. Using betting odds (which represent the likelihood of something happening, with a bit stuck on top so the bookies can make a profit) for comparison, Tyson losing to Buster Douglas was about 25-1. MU's treble was 80-1. Leicester was 5000-1.