Is England part of Europe?

Akai · 05-07-2018, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Yes, I suspect Wales is very attractive, though rather wet. I've also heard that they don't like the English. A friend of mine spent a year there, doing industrial training as a university student. He said that in the pubs, they would speak in Welsh, but when he walked in, conversation would stop dead, then restart in English. Of course he was a glaring full-on hippy at the time which probably didn't sit well with the locals, but it's always made me think of this pub scene:-

Must of been the north, in my experience they barely speak Gaelic in the midlands or the south of wales.

Lisnaholic · 05-07-2018, 08:35 AM

^ I didn't know that, Akai.

In Mexico they have indigenous languages as well, spoken mainly in the rural areas. Maybe that's true in Wales too; head out of town and into the hills and things are different.

And how about you? As a Midlander, were people friendly to you in Wales?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-07-2018, 08:47 AM

I know a few Welsh people and honestly I reckon the hating the English thing is not as bad as is often made out, I think it's really just limited to sport, particularly Rugby. I only know one who is even a pro independence nationalist. A few are quite happy to support England in sport though most just aren't really concerned with it. In north Wales you have the most people who speak the Welsh language, signs are in Welsh, the nationalist movement is strongest, and even when I've been in the villages there I've never been treated badly.

I would say the most hostility toward English people (in this country) comes from Scottish nationalists. I'm not sure if even the Irish are as bad as them.

Lisnaholic · 05-07-2018, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

I would say the most hostility toward English people (in this country) comes from Scottish nationalists. I'm not sure if even the Irish are as bad as them.

^ I like to think that some of these traditional rivalries are exaggerated. When I was at primary school about a quarter of the class were Irish, with names that even schoolchildren could identify (O'Shea, O'Dee, Murphy, O'Malley etc) but as young children will in the right circumstances, we all got on just fine. There was no kind of factional divide at all.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-07-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ I like to think that some of these traditional rivalries are exaggerated. When I was at primary school about a quarter of the class were Irish, with names that even schoolchildren could identify (O'Shea, O'Dee, Murphy, O'Malley etc) but as young children will in the right circumstances, we all got on just fine. There was no kind of factional divide at all.

Same mate not too different here, two or three of the areas next to mine are Irish hotspots, most families were born here but of Irish descent. It doesn't seem like a foreign country when you've grown up around it if that makes sense. Cos pretty much everyone will have a parent or grandparent who is Irish and moved here to work.

Oriphiel · 01-15-2019, 02:03 PM

Bumped for relevancy

Isbjørn · 01-15-2019, 02:25 PM

Europe, as in the cultural region? Yes.

Europe, as in the western part of the Eurasian continent? No.

The Batlord · 01-15-2019, 02:31 PM

What's the difference?

Lisnaholic · 01-16-2019, 09:40 AM

^ Well, one is about culture and people, and the other is about the physical land - at least I imagine that's what Isbjorn is refering to.

Reposted, not so much for relevancy, but because it's a beautiful map that makes you rethink the geography of the British Isles:-

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In fact, England used to be part of Doggerland:-

Spoiler for for something of limited interest only:

Isbjørn · 01-16-2019, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ Well, one is about culture and people, and the other is about the physical land - at least I imagine that's what Isbjorn is refering to.

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. The British Isles are not connected to the Eurasian landmass.

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05-07-2018, 08:35 AM	#62 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ I didn't know that, Akai. In Mexico they have indigenous languages as well, spoken mainly in the rural areas. Maybe that's true in Wales too; head out of town and into the hills and things are different. And how about you? As a Midlander, were people friendly to you in Wales? __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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05-07-2018, 08:47 AM	#63 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I know a few Welsh people and honestly I reckon the hating the English thing is not as bad as is often made out, I think it's really just limited to sport, particularly Rugby. I only know one who is even a pro independence nationalist. A few are quite happy to support England in sport though most just aren't really concerned with it. In north Wales you have the most people who speak the Welsh language, signs are in Welsh, the nationalist movement is strongest, and even when I've been in the villages there I've never been treated badly. I would say the most hostility toward English people (in this country) comes from Scottish nationalists. I'm not sure if even the Irish are as bad as them.