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Old 10-26-2017, 03:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Their website shows 11 instances of photographic proof where South Africa accepted such passport [I know, everyone is going to cry "photoshop," but just saying]. There are numerous instances when a nation won't issue you a passport. If you owe past-due child support, you can't get a passport in the U.S. Same deal if you have defaulted on a student loan. Also if you owe back taxes.
Surely 11 passports accepted could not be held up as an example this works? How many, I wonder, were refused?
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Their website shows 11 instances of photographic proof where South Africa accepted such passport [I know, everyone is going to cry "photoshop," but just saying]. There are numerous instances when a nation won't issue you a passport. If you owe past-due child support, you can't get a passport in the U.S. Same deal if you have defaulted on a student loan. Also if you owe back taxes.
Where are those?
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Surely 11 passports accepted could not be held up as an example this works? How many, I wonder, were refused?
Well, it's proof of concept at the very least.

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http://www.worldservice.org/visas.html

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Old 10-26-2017, 04:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's not a case of proving the concept, it's proving it works all the time. If I were to use that, I'd want to know there was as close to 100% success as possible on it. Otherwise I'd just be wasting my time. Oh, 11 people said it was ok? Yeah, and 99,000 people said it was ****. Gonna have to do better than that. How many people have actually used it, do you know? Then you can see what sort of ratio 11 is. If only 11 have ever used it and they've all been successful, you got 100% success, if not ....
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It's not a case of proving the concept, it's proving it works all the time. If I were to use that, I'd want to know there was as close to 100% success as possible on it. Otherwise I'd just be wasting my time. Oh, 11 people said it was ok? Yeah, and 99,000 people said it was ****. Gonna have to do better than that. How many people have actually used it, do you know? Then you can see what sort of ratio 11 is. If only 11 have ever used it and they've all been successful, you got 100% success, if not ....
Well, if your government refuses to issue you a passport and you need to travel, why not at least TRY it?
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Well, if your government refuses to issue you a passport and you need to travel, why not at least TRY it?
It's all hypothetical with me, as I will never travel outside Ireland again, at least as long as Karen is alive. But if I had to, there's no reason why I couldn't get a passport here, and if for some reason I could not, I wouldn't trust a new, untried and almost beta website with that information unless it could be proven a) that the passport would be accepted as legal wherever I went and b) the details given would not be misused, sold on or copied. I don't want to find myself suddenly accused of being a member of ISIS! Passport info is VERY VERY sensitive, and I wouldn't reveal it to just anyone.
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Well, if your government refuses to issue you a passport and you need to travel, why not at least TRY it?
Cause I don't want to get arrested by South Africans?
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It's all hypothetical with me, as I will never travel outside Ireland again, at least as long as Karen is alive. But if I had to, there's no reason why I couldn't get a passport here, and if for some reason I could not, I wouldn't trust a new, untried and almost beta website with that information unless it could be proven a) that the passport would be accepted as legal wherever I went and b) the details given would not be misused, sold on or copied. I don't want to find myself suddenly accused of being a member of ISIS! Passport info is VERY VERY sensitive, and I wouldn't reveal it to just anyone.
They claim a 60+ year track record. And just because YOU can get a passport from your government, doesn't mean that everyone can. In cases where they can't, I'd at least try to get one that has worked for others in 187 countries. Worth a shot. No use arguing over it if it would, like you said, never even apply to you..

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They claim a 60+ year track record. And just because YOU can get a passport from your government, doesn't mean that everyone can. In cases where they can't, I'd at least try to get one that has worked for others in 187 countries. Worth a shot. No use arguing over it if it would, like you said, never even apply to you..
This sounds like some illogical BS that only a government agent could come up with.
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I think it’s a cool thread. So everything’s not foolproof. That’s life.
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