Is Frownland a Garbage Mod Who Trolls as He Wants Cause the Other Mods Do Nothing?

**Frownland** · 10-17-2017, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sic semper tyrannis.
Why would we expect anything else? As I said before, you're never wrong, you never admit to crossing the line and you always have an excuse, and you never ever take responsibility for anything. No surprise really that you would make that response, or this one below.

I've still not seen a good case against that tempban. If that situation involved anyone else, I would act the same way.

Admit that you're wrong TH!

Trollheart · 10-17-2017, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I like Frown and Chula indeed does willingly and unwillingly provoke people with basically everything he posts, but yeah, I think Frown's behaviour is often kinda ****ty and not worthy of a mod.
I guess I don't care enough to start #downwithfrown-stuff though.

Nobody's saying Chula doesn't stoke the fires and get himself into trouble, but he's not a mod. I expect better from a mod. I suppose I should not. Well, that's not fair: every other mod behaves as expected and I have respect for them all. Frownland is the exception. Unfortunately he's being allowed to pollute the gene pool and nobody has done, is doing or will do anything about it till the end of time.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I've still not seen a good case against that tempban. If that situation involved anyone else, I would act the same way.

Admit that you're wrong TH!

You're wrong.

**Frownland** · 10-17-2017, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You're wrong.

If I politely asked you to stop making off topic posts or I'd delete them and you replied with "**** you I do what I want ban me bitch," I would ban you too. I am absolutely in the right on that one and anyone who disagrees is a big dumb dumb who likely had their perspectives changed by a false narrative.

Trollheart · 10-17-2017, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

If I politely asked you to stop making off topic posts or I'd delete them and you replied with "**** you I do what I want ban me bitch," I would ban you too. I am absolutely in the right on that one and anyone who disagrees is a big dumb dumb who likely had their perspectives changed by the popularized false narrative.

And I would expect to be. I'm not in any way suggesting that sometimes the bans/threats are not necessary or justified. It's your way of implementing them that causes the problem. If Jansz or Exo or Isbjorn asked me (assuming I'd crossed a line) to stop doing something or I'd get banned, I'd listen. If you did, I would also listen but would hear a subtext that says "this is just because it's you. Anyone else would get away with this." This is the reputation you've created for yourself: you come across as someone who singles out and picks on people who you, for whatever reason, don't like, or like baiting. As private parts are we to you: you play with us for your sport.

**Frownland** · 10-17-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

If you did, I would also listen but would hear a subtext that says "this is just because it's you. Anyone else would get away with this." This is the reputation you've created for yourself: you come across as someone who singles out and picks on people who you, for whatever reason, don't like, or like baiting. As private parts are we to you: you play with us for your sport.

Work on your perception then because I don't abuse my mod powers like that. Ever.

grindy · 10-17-2017, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Nobody's saying Chula doesn't stoke the fires and get himself into trouble, but he's not a mod. I expect better from a mod. I suppose I should not. Well, that's not fair: every other mod behaves as expected and I have respect for them all. Frownland is the exception. Unfortunately he's being allowed to pollute the gene pool and nobody has done, is doing or will do anything about it till the end of time.

You're wrong.

**** yeah! I'm respected!
And yes, that's the only thing I took from your post.

Paedantic Basterd · 10-17-2017, 12:54 PM

So here's the thing. We have always had mods who have goaded users and then tried to ban them for retaliating. Anybody remember Urban? Vanilla? Yeah? No? Literally always been an issue. It's just what happens when you A) get a bunch of personalities together and B) give some of them power.

The thing is, changing that kind of culture requires way more effort than anyone is willing to put into it. Accountability isn't fun. So we don't do it.

EDIT: I'm not commenting on Frown per se, because I haven't been around enough to notice the issue in question, I'm just talking about the behaviour in general.

Plankton · 10-17-2017, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I'll be one of them. Seriously: when's the next Whale coming out???

I'm back in the studio this fall/winter, so sometime next spring.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 10-17-2017, 12:57 PM

I respect grindy as well.

Trollheart · 10-17-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I was banned for calling Plankton a fake pussy but Frown gets to make fun of Chula's mentally ill son AND Batlord gets to talk about ****ing Troll's poor sister?
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That's different. I knew he was joking, plus Batty hasn't ****ed anything in so long my sister would chew him up and spit him out. If, however, he had said something along the lines of "Your stupid disabled sister" then we would have a problem. Most times, Batty knows where the line is and seldom crosses it.

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd

So here's the thing. We have always had mods who have goaded users and then tried to ban them for retaliating. Anybody remember Urban? Vanilla? Yeah? No? Literally always been an issue. It's just what happens when you A) get a bunch of personalities together and B) give some of them power.

The thing is, changing that kind of culture requires way more effort than anyone is willing to put into it. Accountability isn't fun. So we don't do it.

EDIT: I'm not commenting on Frown per se, because I haven't been around enough to notice the issue in question, I'm just talking about the behaviour in general.

Yeah. I never had a problem with any other mod. Can't speak for anyone else, but if you get made a mod, if you take on the job, there should be some sort of basic code of conduct that prevents you from abusing your powers. I suppose it doesn't help that I never liked Frownland anyway, and that's reciprocated, but I like him less now that he's proven that all he wants to do as a mod is throw his weight around.

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Originally Posted by Plankton

I'm back in the studio this fall/winter, so sometime next spring.

Yay!

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

I respect grindy as well.

He paid you to say that, didn't he? I know how expensive those Prince special edition boxed sets are.

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10-17-2017, 12:54 PM	#207 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	So here's the thing. We have always had mods who have goaded users and then tried to ban them for retaliating. Anybody remember Urban? Vanilla? Yeah? No? Literally always been an issue. It's just what happens when you A) get a bunch of personalities together and B) give some of them power. The thing is, changing that kind of culture requires way more effort than anyone is willing to put into it. Accountability isn't fun. So we don't do it. EDIT: I'm not commenting on Frown per se, because I haven't been around enough to notice the issue in question, I'm just talking about the behaviour in general.

10-17-2017, 12:57 PM	#209 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I respect grindy as well.